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AIBU to expect my future MIL to butt out of wedding planning?

251 replies

thelaststripe · 15/03/2015 14:01

Now I see her dilemma, she has 3 sons who are traditionally not as keen on wedding planning, but she will not leave it alone. I'm letting her make the wedding cake but she's bombarding me daily with hymn suggestion, questions about the exact colour of my veil etc. Is there a nice way to remind her that she's had her own wedding, this one is mine and my OHs?

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Nishky · 15/03/2015 15:27

Has your Mum had her own wedding?

Charitybelle · 15/03/2015 15:27

I'd just continue to be polite, but if she's contacting you too much just redirect her to her own son. Sounds like he is reasonably involved with the prep and it is his wedding too, and his mum I might add! Why shouldn't he do the majority of the liason with her?

Too often (and I include myself in this) women get married and all the family interaction and social and emotional work falls on their shoulders, even with the husbands family whose main point of contact should be him!

I wouldn't tell her to butt out unless she did or said something overtly rude which it doesn't sound like she has? Just keep saying, 'oh I'm not sure about that why don't you ask oh?' Or, if it's already planned or booked - just say so?

If it's really becoming tiresome why don't you just claim you're fed up with wedding planning (as it does have the tendency to be all consuming) and suggest you talk about something else? Make a joke, like 'mil - if I have to talk about table plans anymore today my head is just going to explode - haha. So, how are things with you and fil'?
Be nice, this is a relationship you're going to be in the rest of your life. I find polite, but positive assertiveness works well with my mil. If she has any problems with aspects of the wedding it should be directed at your oh and he should be dealing with it.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 15/03/2015 15:32

Some major projecting going on in this thread. Fgs OP isn't saying MIL can know nothing and should count herself lucky to be invited. She's saying that MIL is trying to dictate things she has no right to, refusing to be involved when it is offered and making unreasonable demands.

No but of course, OP should have gone to MIL's town for dress shopping and should invite the whole WI and feed them and remember its MILs wedding too.

We won't be paying for the ILs to invite their friends to our wedding, nor will we for my parents. Why should OP have to do that?

The fuss about your OH's half Bro is totally unnecessary. If she isn't comfortable with him being there... Well its such a shame she'll miss her son's wedding, isnt it?

mynameisnotmichaelcaine · 15/03/2015 15:32

OP, may you be blessed with many sons.

thelaststripe · 15/03/2015 15:33

I do get on with her really well most of the time, I may not always agree with her, but we can have a laugh, I just find she treats me a bit like a child.
No, my mum and dad aren't married, but they've been together since they were 16. Actually, none of my aunts and uncles got married either, but all have children with long term partners, so I'm the first wedding for my grandparents as well!
I have asked my OH to liaise with her more, but he just snaps at her, whereas I can stay more polite.

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SukieTuesday · 15/03/2015 15:34

The loony MIL Brigade has appeared Grin

It's your wedding. It's your business. Not your mother's or father's or ILs' business.

Salmotrutta · 15/03/2015 15:38

He snaps at his mother because she's excited and asking things?

Sounds lovely.

Look, if she isn't trying to impose her views very heavy handedly or interfering to an unreasonable extent then I think you should let her ask things and be nice.

MGFM · 15/03/2015 15:40

Bride's do often gravitate towards their own mothers when planning a wedding. I know I did. It was really special going wedding dress shopping with my mum and I don't think looking back I would have wanted to have anyone else there. She enjoyed it also. But then my PIL didnt really show much interest in being 'involved' in decisions. They have two sons and I am currently pregnant with a boy and I did wonder would I feel disappointed if I didnt have any daughters as I would never be 'mother of the bride' and do all of that wedding stuff with my daughters. I still don't know. But if I were you, I wouldn't feel bad. It is your wedding, not hers.

thelaststripe · 15/03/2015 15:44

Haha MGFM, my favourite thing about wedding dress shopping with my mum was how blunt she is. The look on the lady's face when my mum took one look at me and said "no" about 5 times was priceless.
Happy to report she couldn't say "yes" due to tears when I finally found the one

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MGFM · 15/03/2015 15:49

My mother was the same, didn't beat around the bush if she didn't like something! Worked though! Ended up with the most beautiful dress! I think it is the same when you have a baby as well. My mum is coming to stay for two weeks when the baby will be about 2 weeks old. She does live far away so can't visit regularly but I certainly wouldn't have my PIL round that often!

Carrierpenguin · 15/03/2015 15:53

Yanbu, I would find phone calls every other day annoying too. I would politely let her know you have lots on (classes/gym/cinema, whatever) lots of evenings and hope she starts to phone less about the hymns etc. Or let your dp answer her phone calls, then he can have long chats with her about the wedding!

MythicalKings · 15/03/2015 15:55

Every day I'm grateful for the beautiful partners of my DSs. They always include us as much as their own parents and don't think that living with a man means you own him. He's allowed to stay in touch with his own family if he wants to.

Viviennemary · 15/03/2015 15:56

Oh let her take part. YABU and a bridezilla.

grannytomine · 15/03/2015 15:59

It really seems that the grooms family can never get it right they are either not interested or a pita by interfering. I have 3 sons and I am not over sensitive but you do feel pushed out with weddings, new babies etc.

However, I am good enough when their is a financial problem, child minding etc. Funny how DILs seem to be OK about that. Bitter? Moi.

pepperfish · 15/03/2015 16:03

Gosh, all these condescending responses - ignore them OP. Not all of us have a MIL with manners. I too have a MIL who can at times be a pain in arse. Passive aggressive, bossy, throws a hissy fit and ignores me and DH if things don't suit her. Very much the matriarch of the family.

I totally hear you. My way of dealing with it was to remain vague on all talk re. weddings - if she puts her ideas forward and you don't like them say, "hmm maybe, we haven't decided yet". Or even if I really wasn't in the mood I would say "ah, I've had enough of wedding talk for today!".

What I will say - mine got her way on the church wedding - I wasn't at all convinced and I remember being very pissed off at being 'told' where we would marry. It was actually lovely in the end and I'm so pleased we went with her suggestion (was also a lot cheaper!) It kept her quiet too. You might find some of her suggestions actually work very well indeed so don't totally bin them unless they are ridiculous.

It is still your and your dp's wedding. You are perfectly entitled to feel that way. Good luck, wish you all the best Smile

thelaststripe · 15/03/2015 16:06

Pepperdish, I'm a massive fan of the vague answer! I can't wait for the wedding :)

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LadyFlumpalot · 15/03/2015 16:07

Give her something important, but that you are not that fussed about being in control of to do. I've asked my MIL (future) to be in charge of making the bouquets and button holes as she likes flowers and flower arranging. I've told her the flowers I want, sent her some Pinterest links and am letting her get on with it.

She has had one MILzilla moment where she tried telling me that we weren't to invite a particular relative. I quite firmly told her that it wasn't my decision as it's DPs family and passed the phone over to him to deal with it.

I do feel sorry for MILs in general. I will be one someday and I hope my future DIL and I get on.

TheFecklessFairy · 15/03/2015 16:07

You are getting wed to yourself, I presume? Oh no, forgot HER son is involved in the wedding too, silly me.

PossumPoo · 15/03/2015 16:15

Ffs those poster's with DS! OP didn't say she couldn't have anything to do with the wedding! Yes l agree with pp, a lot of projecting going on here.

sleeponeday · 15/03/2015 16:23

God, this thread is weird. It's like people are answering different posts from the OP to those that are actually there.

OP offered MIL involvement at the start. MIL declined. OP is not really a frilly wedding type of person so is accepting all help offered from friends and family, and as her parents are paying for most of the costs, and they are local, they're naturally involved.

MIL's contribution has been resentment that the groom wants his own brother there, because brother isn't also her child; anger that the bride and her mum didn't schlepp an 8 hour round trip to hers to pick out wedding dresses so she could be included because it was clearly too much to expect her to travel to them, and upset that the ceremony will be one that suits the engaged couple, rather than MIL's own religious beliefs. Oh, and she wants her friends asked to this wedding she's not paying towards, rather than immediate relatives of the groom. And people are huffing at the TOTAL unreasonableness of the bride in not eagerly falling in with all of these plans? Okay then.

OP, you say she's normally lovely and you get on well. I think the idea of playing to her strengths with a secret project is a good one. Could you maybe ask, if the cake is fruit, if she can make two bottom tier size ones, so you can wrap it up and store it ready for the first baby's baptism (if you want to go that road, obviously!) so they'll be made at the same time, and be more meaningful? They last better if not iced so the top tier tradition never made much sense to me. What could she contribute that might make her feel more involved - and is she on email? Could you take lots of camera phone images to send her on a regular basis, so she knows what's happening?

I suspect her approach is because this is a bittersweet moment in some ways. Her baby is truly grown up, and will start his own life as a fully independent adult in a way you can't ignore. It's a rite of passage that probably reminds you of your own mortality - having babies did me, and I imagine their leaving school, uni, then marrying probably does as well. She wants to be a part of it and while she's behaving a little selfishly in how she expresses that, if you can find ways to offer involvement she may feel less compelled to try to grab at it, if that makes sense?

Weddings are like holidays: they can bring out the worst in all involved. As you sound wonderfully non-Bridezilla, I'd focus on keeping good relationships when all this is over, by almost all means necessary and possible. And be grateful she doesn't live locally. ;)

sleeponeday · 15/03/2015 16:26

Incidentally, I have a DS. I worry not about the DIL, but whether I will manage to let him go well enough to be welcome in their lives. I am afraid, reading this, that a lot of little girls running around right now are in for a tough old time when the precious DS' of some posters grow up. Though not as rough as time as their future MIL, as is the nature of things when you try to stop the tide.

Micah · 15/03/2015 16:27

My pil didn't even come to the wedding :). At least she's interested.

Include her, smile and nod. If you agree with a suggestion, delegate it to her, if not, smile and nod.

You could end up getting quite a bit of free help.

thelaststripe · 15/03/2015 16:28

Sleeponeday, it's like you know me! Or can just actually read my posts! I've sent her photos of everything apart from the dress and veil (my camera phone managed to break)

I think I will give her a secret project along with the cake, I think wedding favours. I might also ask one more time if she wants me to come with her to look for a mother of the groom outfit.

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PHANTOMnamechanger · 15/03/2015 16:34

I worry not about the DIL, but whether I will manage to let him go well enough to be welcome in their lives.

^ well said

IMO future ILs of all generations all have a part to play in making sure things work out. Problems only arise when one or more of them cannot compromise and want their own way all the time.

Sazzle41 · 15/03/2015 16:35

Is she over excited bless her? Just have a stock response? "Great, will add it to idea's pile". Or dont answer every call if she is ringing 20 times a day ?