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my dp NEVER tips

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suzzieanneba46 · 05/03/2015 06:13

My dp just refuses ever to tip. This is because he worked in a pizza restaurant when he was a student and never got any of the tips as he worked in the kitchen.

Aibu to think he needs to give this up and just go along with social norms?

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SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 14:11

That's just how it has evolved. There is no consistency to it at all.

Exactly, so it's based on where some people have decided it is socially acceptable to tip, and then everyone else blindly follows sheep like until it is deemed the norm.

PurpleSwift · 05/03/2015 14:15

I don't tip. There are thousands of people working hard for minimum wage, i've done it myself. Why only tip a select few? Because it's convenient? Meh, I don't see the point. I'm polite and grateful but I won't tip.

limitedperiodonly · 05/03/2015 14:24

by far the lowest amount I've been tipped is as a chambermaid

HiawathaDidntBotherTooMuch We always tip chambermaids. At the risk of joining the lovely husbands contest, it was DH who started it.

It seems reasonable to me and I'm much tidier on holiday than I am at home.

I also tip the usual suspects such as waiters, hairdressers, taxi drivers and deliverymen from Pizza Hut ones to the men who manhandle sofas and other big stuff into my house.

I'm wondering about those people who say they tip only for exceptional service. How exceptional does it have to be?

SIL was once saved from choking by a waitress who knew the Heimlich Manoeuvre. Are we talking that kind of exceptional?

My mum said: 'Well, they train them in that kind of thing now.' Confused

She was a stranger to tipping too.

HiawathaDidntBotherTooMuch · 05/03/2015 14:28

On behalf of all Chambermaids, past and present, thank you limited! Thanks

limitedperiodonly · 05/03/2015 14:30

Also, non-tippers. Do you sometimes wonder why you never get the table in the window and the most attentive service?

Feckeggblue · 05/03/2015 14:46

I don't really understand the logic that because you don't tip some people you shouldn't too anyone. Some jobs just traditionally attract tips. I tip my builder- he's very well paid: but it's just what you do to say thanks for a job well done

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 14:47

Also, non-tippers. Do you sometimes wonder why you never get the table in the window and the most attentive service?

I never tip and I've always got great service and been seated in the window seat plenty of times.
If a waiter can only do their work adequately by bribing more people out of money then they're clearly in the wrong job and not fit for it.

VinoTime · 05/03/2015 14:48

Ha!

I'm a single parent and I earn just above minimum wage. I never tip. Why on earth would I actively seek to boost somebody else's wages when they are banking the same as I am each month, or probably more so with all their cash in hand tips? I think not. It is not my responsibility to top up wages - it's an employers. Dealing with the public is shit and I do it every day. I neither get, nor would expect any extra simply for doing my job. I knew what my work would be paying me per hour when I signed on the dotted line - just like everybody else. If you've got a problem with your wages, take it up with management, not paying customers.

I fail to see how my not tipping makes me tight, mean or socially inept ConfusedHmm I'm not about to bust my arse at work for a whole hour just so that I can give it away to the chap who bought me a plate of dinner from the kitchen whilst already getting paid to do so. It's completely illogical. I have to work a shit load of overtime and save like crazy to afford any small treats for myself and my dd. I refuse to just throw hard earned money and time spent away from my child away in such an outdated, grabby way.

And let me be clear - the reason I don't tip is not because I don't get tipped myself. I don't tip because we have a NMW here in the UK. I don't tip because I find the whole idea of it utterly moronic. I don't tip because the price I see set out in front of me is the price I expect to pay.

Let's put it into perspective shall, we?

You've just been served at a supermarket checkout. You could have sworn the total came to £30.00 but no, it's £34.50. You question it and the cashier politely responds, "15% service charge. See you again soon!"

You've just treated yourself in Topshop. You've already paid the cost of your new shoes plus VAT, but instead of paying £70.00 you paid £80.50. You walk back into the shop and question the girl at the tills, and she responds, "15% service charge. See you again soon!"

You've just handed your library books back in, relieved that they weren't late. The man at the desk is quietly scanning the books back into the system, but asks you to hold on before you shoot out the door to run some more errands. When he finally looks up at you, he nods his head towards a big glass jar sitting next to his potted indoor plant. It reads: 10% tip welcome.

You're frantic because your child's carer hasn't turned up today and you're now running late for work. When you finally get through to them on the phone and ask them where they are, they respond, "I quit. I've gone to work for another family. This one actually remembers to tip me."

The cleaners have just gone on strike at your place of work and to make matters worse, one of the toilets is now blocked. When you ask the reason for the strike, your boss explains they want "Equal tips for all workers!"

A little ridiculous, no?

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 14:51

Some jobs just traditionally attract tips.

Says who? Confused Is there a Tip Police out there who set down the rules in the first place?! Who and when said that you're supposed to tip builders?
Why tip a builder for a job well done as it traditionally attracts tips (for traditionally read someone, somewhere decided builders should be tipped so everyone now should).
They're doing their JOB. If they've done it well, that's what they're SUPPOSED to be doing in the first place!

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 14:52

It is not my responsibility to top up wages - it's an employers.

Exactly, but they never will pay properly if there's enough mugs tippers out there who will pay them instead, will they?

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 14:57

couldn't have put it better myself! Apparently it's OK for waiters to spit in your food if they don't get extra money, but any shop assistant adding themselves extra cash onto your new jumper isn't.
As adding cash to a jumper hasn't been deemed socially acceptable yet. Give it time, someone somewhere will decide it should become the norm and in a few years it will be 'tradition' to as well.....

limitedperiodonly · 05/03/2015 15:20

Then you are exceptionally lucky SwirlyThingAlert.

It's not bribery. I expect a reasonable standard of service or I wouldn't return. But tipping well in regular places works. That doesn't mean they should give anyone else less than the required standard of service.

It's just that you look after them they look after you.

Years ago I couldn't understand why a friend could never get a minicab at 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night. They were always busy. Sometimes even when she'd booked they wouldn't turn up on time.

I'd call the same service and they'd send a cab within 15 minutes, no trouble.

One night I stayed at her flat and she was berating them and I took over.

The penny dropped. It wasn't just because I was a regular, but because I tipped - £1 on what was probably a £5 fare back then, so not madly generous, but obviously enough to tip the balance.

I always used to get the same safe and friendly driver. His girlfriend was the controller. Funny that. I never had any trouble getting him or someone equally trustworthy when I called for a cab to take me home a few hours later either.

hugoagogo · 05/03/2015 15:31

Is the window seat supposed to be better? I always thought restasurasnts filled the window seats first to make themselves look busy and popular. I much prefer a seats further in so I don't feel on display.

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 15:32

It's just that you look after them they look after you.
But tipping well in regular places works.

If that's not bribery then I don't know what is. Basically, they'll only do their job properly if they're paid extra to do it. Sound like an absolutely crap firm and need putting out of business if they're not doing their job, and would rather have customers stranded as they didn't get an extra pound or whatever.
Another argument for abolishing tipping.

caryam · 05/03/2015 15:42

I hate going out for meals with people who don't tip. It is simply embarassing.

TooOldForGlitter · 05/03/2015 15:49

Everyone is doing their absolute best to ignore the people who are posting repeatedely about those of us who can't afford to tip. Is it really as simple as us peasants having to stay at home until we can afford that bit extra that will allow us to conform to a social trend set by people with more disposable income than 'us'? Is that it?

TooOldForGlitter · 05/03/2015 15:49

repeatedly

TooOldForGlitter · 05/03/2015 15:50

So, just to be clear, non-tippers are mean, selfish, tight-fisted and embarrassing to be seen with. Fuck me we're screwed aren't we.

Sallystyle · 05/03/2015 15:56

I don't really understand being able to afford to go out for a meal but not being able to afford at least a £3 tip.

For me the tip is a part of the meal. If I can't afford the tip we don't go out to eat.

No, you don't have to never go out but I would personally not go to a restaurant if I can't afford a small tip at least. I am not suggesting you do the same but I would be too embarrassed to not tip.

You don't have to tip a huge amount and if I couldn't afford a tip at all the last thing I would do is pay the price for a meal out. I would find much cheaper options so I can have a day out, because for me not being able to afford a tip mean I can't really afford to pay the price for a meal out in the first place.

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 15:57

I see tipping as patronising as well. "There you go, aren't you CLEVER doing your job properly. Have some extra for a job well done!"
It's like the money equivalent of a pat on the head.

dexter73 · 05/03/2015 16:01

I agree with U2. If I was so hard up that I couldn't afford to give £1-£2 as a tip I would be questioning why I was wasting the little money I did have on going out for a meal.

Salene · 05/03/2015 16:04

Yes he is stingy .

Tell him not to be so mean

limitedperiodonly · 05/03/2015 16:05

Is the window seat supposed to be better?

You're so right hugo. Sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't. In the place I was thinking of, it was. In other restaurants I ask for other tables and I'd expect to get them.

I wouldn't expect the waiter to turf someone out just because I was a big tipper. I'd like the idea but I think that would be going a bit too far.

I read something the other day that said that the only truly private people are terrorists. Very true.

Luckily I don't have to worry about sitting out on display because I'm not a target for the paparazzi or Putin's death squads.

I do worry about sun damage though, so never sit outside.

SwirlyThingAlert the minicab drivers were providing a service but also using their brains. Given the choice, who would you choose as a passenger?

Seriously.

Someone you knew to be a nice person rather than any of the other random gits or pukers out on a Friday night who might also be regular customers?

And that's not to mention the danger of accepting a bilker or mugger.

Do you really understand what you're saying when you say that tipping should be banned?

Should minicab drivers be obliged to take anyone just because they can pay the fare?

Is that the kind of world in which you want to live? Really? Please think about it. At least for the poor minicab driver's children.

Sad

A combination of tipping and being nice gave me the edge every time.

SwirlyThingAlert · 05/03/2015 16:06

If I was so hard up that I couldn't afford to give £1-£2 as a tip I would be questioning why I was wasting the little money I did have on going out for a meal

It's nothing to DO with being too hard up, what part of that are people not getting?! It's just so stupid how some professions expect the public to give them extra money for doing their job.
Even if it was to do with being too hard up, are you seriously saying that poor people should stay at home where the belong and never go out and treat themselves?
What a disgusting attitude to have.

londonrach · 05/03/2015 16:07

We always get great tables too. Dont understand why tipping, non tipping effects that