To think Tory voters have no moral compass and empathy

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Firstly I'm not labour I follow politics but can not think of a party I really relate to.

Anyway every article I read the book I'm reading has made me come to that conclusion. I'm currently reading a book by Owen Jones which has really opened my eyes.

The fact that anyone with below £10 mil in their account can vote for them is beyond me.

But why would anyone vote for a party that bashes the disabled the poor and anyone outside of their Etonian elite. The only people that would want a party and policies like this have to have no empathy.

To Twinkle's list, which is pretty comprehensive, I would add 'Reflections on the Revolution in France' by Burke.

You can talk about labour they are just as bad.

If you are Tory and concerned about the economy than your happy with income inequality being higher than ever and Cameron and friends (plus Inlaws and his own father) avoiding tax I question your sanity.

Honestly your okay with rich getting richer and poor getting poorer.

Economic stragtegy my arse austerity doesn't work because the biggest spender in any economy is always the gov.

I'm a teacher I have had a real term pay cut of 13% since 2010. Disputes me not causing the financial crash.

Oh and the bankers Osborne vigorously campaigned to protect bankers bonuses as an eu proposal was suggested to cap bonuses at 50% of pay.

These people in government have blood on their hands if anyone watched dispatches last night a former soldier died after his benefits were sanction and his diebetic drugs went off in the fridge. Their have also been many sucicides.

Food banks

NHs privatisation

Schools privatisation

Inequality

Disabilism

Armed forces

All are reasons why Cameron sickens me.

And I stand by my opinion that Tory voters have no moral compass as it is unclear to me why even if the economy was brilliant (it is not) why anyone with a heart would vote for the nasty party. You don't get that nickname for no reason

And also this is not an attack on the right. You can be right wing but not want the poor and disabled to suffer. But the Tory party seems to want the poor to suffer.

I hope you don't teach English OP, as your grammar and spelling are as dodgy as your political expressions.

If you're reading The Spirit Level, you should also read Policy Exchange's review of the book's statistical evidence and methodological soundness.

I'm sorry alwaysbeenwrong maybe I should get off my iPhone and leave toddler who is sick to go up to the computer and type this properly. Why don't you post something constructive rather than just bitch about grammar to someone trying to type on a 4 inch screen. As for my political views I think the same back

You can be right wing but not want the poor and disabled to suffer Who do you suggest people with right wing views vote for then, OP. UKIP?

Really? You think that because a derogatory nickname is dreamt up by the opposing side then it must automatically be accurate?

I don't believe the Tories want the poor to suffer just for the sake of it, but it's seems like common sense to assume that use who take the most from the government have the most to lose when cuts have to be made. And cuts did have to be made.

Tax avoidance doesn't bother me in the slightest. It's perfectly normal for people to only pay as much as they have to, and avoidance is legal.

The "nasty party" was coined by Theresa May - a Tory Cabinet minister. She was talking about how the Tories needed to be aware that some people perceived them that way.

Wealthy pensioners must keep their cheap bus fairs, though!

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That's interesting grovel, I didn't know that. I'll bet she regrets it!

There are loads of Tory voting pensioners who despair at being given benefits they don't need.

Nit, I am up in arms about Cameron's vow to maintain the fuel allowance and bus pass. More the former than the latter, but still.

I am trying, perhaps more than usual, to make an informed choice as I have a teen who's too young to vote this time but quizzing me on every bloody policy.

Anyway, my thought for today is that Labour's policy on tuition fees is a crock of shit.

The tuition fees policy espoused by Miliband shows real contempt about the intelligence of the electorate. It's a headline-grabber.

There are loads of Tory voting pensioners who despair at being given benefits they don't need.

Maybe there are. Funny how we never hear of working age people despairing at being given child benefit or child tax credits they don't need.

My husband and I were always a bit "what the fuck" at the child benefit back in the years that we qualified. I despair at these money recycling benefits.

No need for them to despair - they can always give their benefits to charity if they are so upset!

Or, they could strike a line item out of the budget: "Child Benefit", and I could keep my money in the first instance (saving the 20% or so "service charge").

www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/62461/which-is-bigger-the-bill-for-benefit-fraud-or-tax-evasion

Leaked documents suggest that hundreds of thousands of people from across the world were given help to conceal millions of dollars of assets. HMRC has reportedly been sitting on a list of 1,000 UK tax evaders for five years, yet only one person has been prosecuted.

Margaret Hodge, chair of the Public Accounts Committee, was today among the commentators to suggest that if the suspected tax evaders had been benefits claimants they would have been taken to court years ago.

Another group of MPs sitting on the Work and Pensions Select Committee has previously accused government of over-emphasising benefit fraud, noting the "large disparity between the official estimate of benefit fraud and the public perception".

A 2013 Ipsos Mori survey found the general public believed that almost a quarter, 24 per cent, of all benefits were claimed fraudulently, 34 times greater than the official 0.7 per cent estimate, reports Welfare Weekly.

So how do the official HMRC statistics for benefit fraud and tax evasion compare?

According to HMRC figures for 2012/13, £1.2bn of benefit spending is lost due to fraud, while £4.1bn is lost through tax evasion.

We had a thread on this recently. Much of the £4.1bn lost through tax evasion is cash in hand employment, isn't it? I simply find it hard to get angry about people who are, for example, going door to door washing windows not declaring their income. Or decorators or plumbers or whatever.

Op. I do hope your'e not a "politics teacher" reading rubbish such as "chavs" and having your eyes open by it.

I don't know which book is worse Chavs (Owen Jones) or The Abolition of Britain (Peter Hitchens). They are probably two of the most pathetic nonsense sprouting books you can read despite coming from opposing sides in the argument.

Funnily enough I have just read about "Edmund Burke" (1790) Reflections on the French Revolution . I also have read that George Rude (1959) found out that a large number of the rioters in the French revolution were respectable members of society , not a mob of dispossessed people.

Indeed the pre revolution riots, were led by led by lawyers clerks ....

I've always been taught that ideally you want to be near the middle.
Right leaning or left leaning is fine.
But the far left are every bit as dangerous as the far right