To think Tory voters have no moral compass and empathy

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Firstly I'm not labour I follow politics but can not think of a party I really relate to.

Anyway every article I read the book I'm reading has made me come to that conclusion. I'm currently reading a book by Owen Jones which has really opened my eyes.

The fact that anyone with below £10 mil in their account can vote for them is beyond me.

But why would anyone vote for a party that bashes the disabled the poor and anyone outside of their Etonian elite. The only people that would want a party and policies like this have to have no empathy.

I've always quite liked conservatives. They are often great MPs and councillors. Kind, well educated people with a strong libertarian streak and working class people with a work ethic.

But I don't see any of that in the current government. I don't know how anyone with a moral compass can vote for these fuckers.

Oh well, sorry about that.

I meant voting by nicest smile is just as insane as your generalisation!

i can't understand how any one can vote for cameron and co after how they have shafted the most vulnerable.
but people will , I just hope if the voted in again, the people on here who voted for them won't pretend to care when it get worse.

" right wingers are less intelligent than left wingers" ....oh my god....I think I'd better leave this thread

"Maybe you should stop reading books and make up your own mind"

Yes, read the daily mail instead. people make decisions from lots of sources. family, friends, personal experience, newspapers, books.

Read more books OP. Do what you then think is best.

I don't tend to form my opinions based on what The Mirror or other trashy tabloids say, but I am swaying towards voting conservative because on the whole, they are better than the rest.

I don't agree with everything they do, but then I don't agree with everything the other parties would do either. There is very little choice, and I doubt the majority of voters believe in everything their chosen party stands for.

It's plain stupid to suggest that anyone who votes Tory has no empathy, people have many different things that they see as most important from a political party and for many different reasons.

Sorry Primadonna. There are lots of studies!

I'll vote for whoever Stephen Hawking votes for. Seems like a smart chap

www.theguardian.com/society/poverty?page=138
The Guardian
UK income gap widens: 'Inequality under Labour is higher than in 1961' ... Labour's target for halving child poverty by 2010 will now be very difficult to meet, ... on his own side after budget fails to mention pledge to end child poverty by 2020.

Remember the Tories looking after the rich at the expense of the poor? Remember the jubilation when the Labour Government was finally elected in 1997? Remember all the promises? Well, the latest research from the Institute for Fiscal Studies says the total poverty gap - the total income by which families fall short of the poverty line - has increased under Labour.

The report concludes that children who live in the poorest UK households have less of a chance of escaping poverty than when Labour came to power. Yet, child poverty is one of Labour's key targets, and has been at the heart of the political agenda since 1999.

Although some poor families have benefited, it is the rich who have benefited more. According to government surveys, 1.1 million children live in households with less than 40% of the national average income. Four out of 10 of these children live in households that do not receive any of the main means-tested benefits - even though they may be entitled to claim.

More and more people are being forced in to minimum wage jobs that are casual, temporary and often part-time. It is these in low-paid minimum wage jobs that are stuck in the poverty trap between benefits and a decent wage.

So, for all their talk, this government has failed abysmally to tackle poverty.Their policies benefit the rich at the expense of the poor - and they are set to continue to do so

I kind of agree - I've never met a kind Tory. They are socially divisive, leave the poorest and weakest without support.
They lack empathy and are quite arrogant. But actually this is true of many politicians. Just can't trust anyone who doesn't care for the vulnerable!

I've voted for all the main parties over the almost 30 years I've been able to vote. I can't catergorise any party or their voters really. Plenty of skint Tory voters in my family. I'm the first in my family to get a degree and own my own house. None of the Tory voters have. Plenty of Ex mining "my father voted Labour and so shall I" types in my family too...you can't just make weeping generalisations. Well you can, but it doesn't make you look too bright...

There might be self-interested politicians, but in the main all political parties try and implement policies that they believe will bring about the best possible society. That includes the Tories.

If you can't see that, it might be that you lack empathy (or at least the ability to see others' points of view, which is a big part of empahty).

Yes 'stop reading books'

No one ever learned anything from a book did they.

People are starving as a result of their policies.
It's a fact.

I kind of agree - I've never met a kind Tory. They are socially divisive, leave the poorest and weakest without support

Read the post above yours, the sweet Labour government has wiped out a generation and created an under class that is doomed.

I've always quite liked conservatives. They are often great MPs and councillors. Kind, well educated people with a strong libertarian streak and working class people with a work ethic.
This is my experience of Tory MPs and councillors, too. But I wouldn't vote Tory this time round either. There's not a single party I could see myself backing. Incidentally, there are some excruciatingly stupid comments on this thread.

YABU to start a thread about the Conservatives and dictate that people can't talk about Labour (or indeed any other party). The Conservative Party doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Wow - that's some statement! You really think that anyone who votes Tory is a psychopath . I am not, never have been and never will be a Tory voter but I have plenty of friends who are nice, normal people with empathy to spare and their moral compass intact. What a ghastly thing to say. So ignorant, so immature.

Every day I see something reported or read something the Tories have done and wonder why on earth anyone in their right minds is thinking of voting for them. The thought of them being in power for another 5 years scares me, tbh.

I do think that Tory voters don't think about anyone but themselves. They don't think of the poor, sick or disabled, they just want to keep their own money. They think those on benefits are workshy and scroungers, there is no empathy.

DH was talking to FIL, I am disabled so he was telling him about all the cuts and changes to the DLA etc, FIL could not have been less interested. Now it's been announced that defence spending will be less than foreign aid if they get back in, both DH and DS1 are in the Forces, FIL shrugged and said "I'm still voting for them, I always have!" He doesn't care about anyone but himself, he's bought the maximum of those saving bonds and is merrily feathering his nest while sticking two fingers up to everyone else.

I kind of agree - I've never met a kind Tory. They are socially divisive, leave the poorest and weakest without support.

As we are using anecdotal evidence, the most ardent labour supporters I know are willing to support the poor just as long as though it doesn't directly hit them in the pocket.

It's almost like there are bad examples on both sides of the fence and sweeping generalisations is playing into the 2 party system and not really advancing anything.

I wonder if Op will return.

Tories are, on the whole, self-serving arseholes but then so was Tory Tony Blair.

I am all for reading books but have to admit that the Guardian writers inevitably leave me eye-rolly and irritated. They are very good at criticising the ills of society as emotionally as possible but generally fail tp provide workable solutions.

I don't vote for the conservatives, by the way.

I give 6 hours a week volunteering doing repairs at the homes of the elderly and am a Tory/Libs voter. If you want a nice community, make it that way with hard work and care for one another rather enforced government policy.

One of the things I like most about the UK is that all the parties are actually quite sensible, no matter if you vote labour, libs, or conservative. I would say I could pick a handful of policies from each party that I wholeheartedly agree with.

I think there's a massive divide between Westminster Tories who make policy, and those Tories who aspire to that group, and the kind of grass-roots Tories who work at local level. I have many friends who are Tory voters and even they are disgusted with the current government - the people in Westminster irrespective of the party they belong to have no concept of what it is like to live in the real world, hold down a real job, live with real economic uncertainty. I refuse to tar all Tory voters with the same brush, though I will never, never, never be one of them.