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The last thing I want to do is upset anyone but I have never understood gender disappointment. (Possible unintended triggers)

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Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 25/02/2015 00:53

Just that really. Does it matter if you have for example. 5 boys or 5 girls as long as the baby is healthy. How can anyone be disappointed in their own child.
Prepared to be flamed. I've been on MN long enough to know how it works

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fermerswife · 25/02/2015 13:08

Slightly unrelated but it really gets my back up when people hear of a new baby and say "oh great I'm sure she's delighted she's got one of each" or something similar. It's like those couples who get another boy/girl are in some way disappointed and you'd feel sorry for them! I know it's really just something people say but still I just find it annoying, maybe I'm BU ;-)

Back to the original post, I guess I don't personally understand it as I would be happy with either gender but I can understand why some people would feel pasionately about it.

jellybeans · 25/02/2015 13:08

I a former smog! Uses to feel sorry for people with 'just' boys. I have no brothers a s was brought uP by relatives telling me girls were better. I wasn't bothered by my first but after having DD1 I really wanted more DD. All my friends with boys were so negative about them. They were 'desperate' for girls.

Well my 3rd daughter we got horrific news at the 20 week scan. We lost her not long after. That put things into perspective. And then guess what happened? We had boys! And now I feel so stupid I was so ignorant! And now I can appreciate other people boys. Boys are every bit as fab.

However I don't understand the poster who said she has boys and girls but would hate to have more boys!

Rainicorn · 25/02/2015 13:09

I have three boys. When I was pregnant with ds3 I would have liked a girl and was sad for all of 5 seconds when we were told at the scan he was a boy. I could tell the sonography r wasn't impressed with my reaction either. It wasn't disappointment, more worry, as DS2 had a few weeks before been died with autism and we had been told we stood a 1:4 chance of our next child having ASD as well, especially if it were a boy.

I left that hospital making lots of plans having three boys. I do hope they don't prove the MN idea that boys don't stick around when they get a wife, sick of hearing that crap, it hurts so much more than hearing I was expecting a boy did.

I have an ex friend who ended our friendship once she found out she was pregnant with a girl, her 4th pregnancy. She ended it the day she heard. The reason, we would have nothing in common anymore because she pitied me not having a girl, my life would never be complete and she didn't want me to use her dad as a surrogate daughter. WTF? No idea where she got such a notion from, but hey, let her crack on with it. Last I heard, one of her sons has moved out, the other two are sent packing to relatives/after school clubs/holiday clubs at every opportunity whilst her and her princess spend time shopping, going to coffee shops and girly things. Such a high pedestal that girl is on, I wouldn't want to be around when that comes crashing down.

kentishgirl · 25/02/2015 13:18

I don't get it either and it makes me feel very uncomfortable about the parents' views on gender generally. I assume they have very stereotyped attitudes about what a boy is and does, and what a girl is and does, instead of seeing their children as individuals. I don't agree with stereotyping according to gender.

If I hear about it (very rarely, I have to admit) then I always wish they get a child that does not conform to the stereotypes. So they get a girl who is tough and strong and likes getting dirty and playing with trucks. Or a boy who is quiet and neat and clean and likes playing with dolls.

SaucyJack · 25/02/2015 13:18

I'm not entirely sure we'd grow to like a boy crystal

Still, I'd get away with growing his hair and putting him in a dress for the first five years and then after that there's always boarding-school.

CrystalCove · 25/02/2015 13:20

Omg Rainicorn, of all the outrageous things Ive read on these types of threads your ex friend really takes the prize..ending a friendship because your child wasnt a girl, jesus! And as for being "pitied" that doesnt upset me just makes me angry.

CrystalCove · 25/02/2015 13:23

SaucyJack Im guessing thats your attempt at sarcasm but I find your attitude rather shallow, are you Rainicorns friend?

CrystalCove · 25/02/2015 13:25

My DH hates his mother. He pretty much ignores her and hasn't been keeping her up to date on my pregnancy, it's been down to me. How I look forward to it all when our son is grown up!

Why would you expect your own son to feel like this about you and ignore you just because that is what your DHs relationship with his Mother is like? Confused

SaucyJack · 25/02/2015 13:26

You find it shallow that I like being the mother of my own children? Who's the one with a chip on their shoulder here then?

CrystalCove · 25/02/2015 13:30

No I find it shallow to call boys an alien species and to use the word SMOG - what is there to feel smug about having a girl as opposed to a boy for example.

GoodbyeToAllOfThat · 25/02/2015 13:30

I don't get it either and it makes me feel very uncomfortable about the parents' views on gender generally. I assume they have very stereotyped attitudes about what a boy is and does, and what a girl is and does, instead of seeing their children as individuals. I don't agree with stereotyping according to gender.

Yes. I had my strapping footballer first and I thought it would be so cute if we had a little ballerina next.

MrsHathaway · 25/02/2015 13:31

I have a duty to raise my sons as feminists. They're all still small but already it can be difficult against the forces of society.

Anyway, speaking about gender preference and gender disappointment:

As soon as I realised I might have children, I wanted three - BBG. By the time I was actually first pregnant it had become a fixation.

I had quite severe antenatal anxiety every time. When I went for my 20w scan, I truly believed that if DC1 turned out to be a girl, I would have to kill myself. I am not going to offer an explanation because it wasn't rational, but it was very, very real for me at that time.

At that scan we were warned that he might be seriously ill (soft markers for Edwards). Contrary to the expectations voiced on this thread, my thoughts were "we can cope with illness: at least he's a boy".

Similarly, with DC2 I still wanted a boy, although not as strongly - for logistical reasons a girl would have meant we would not have TTC#3 - and we were given scary news at the scan (bilateral renal pelvic dilation). Even as the consultant was organising additional scans and talking about transplants, I was thinking "at least he's a boy".

I've had proper bad news at scans too - mc, one of which mmc and traumatic. That hasn't meant I could abandon all my preferences the next time.

DC3 should have been a girl, according to the plan. I had to work hard after the scan to come round to the idea that I would never have a daughter, and the reasons I found helpful had to do with my experience and fears about how the world treats women.

It's not that I didn't want my DS3; more that I was giving up ideas of frocks-with-matching-bloomers and so on.

Nowadays, if people ask if I wanted a girl, I ask which DS I should have given up to have one.

I'll never have a girl, like I'll never do my first degree at Oxford, or marry the one who got away, or run away to join the circus. I can daydream about the idea without actually resenting or regretting my life, or wishing for change.

SaucyJack · 25/02/2015 13:34

Because I get to buy Monster High instead of poxy Skylanders.

Seriously tho, I don't know why anyone has a gender preference.

But I wanted girls, and I have three beautiful specimens..... and I'm not going to pretend I'm disappointed.

CPtart · 25/02/2015 13:37

I believe that MOST (not all) women prefer girls, and MOST (not all) men prefer boys. Reading these threads confirms that suspicion. Indeed there are several pieces of research that have found that fathers are more likely to leave the family unit when the offspring are solely female.
As a mother of two boys I still occasionally wonder what having a daughter would have been like. IME, as much as boys and girls are much the same in the early years, once at school the gender distinctions really do kick in. Girls playing football and boys doing dance for example, are really in the minority.

CrystalCove · 25/02/2015 13:38

Nope still dont get it why some Mums of girls feel smug compared to Mums of boys.

GoodbyeToAllOfThat · 25/02/2015 13:42

I believe that MOST (not all) women prefer girls, and MOST (not all) men prefer boys.

It seems to me that people who are having two children want one of each so that they can have both parenting experiences.

And yes, parenting small children seems quite the same whether they're boys or girls. I now have a 12.5 year old son and there's quite that I just leave to my husband to discuss because he's hitting puberty. I'm here for emotional support but there are some days that he is just a mystery to me.

CarlaVeloso · 25/02/2015 13:42

I believe that MOST (not all) women prefer girls, and MOST (not all) men prefer boys.

Bear in mind posters on this thread are a self-selecting group who will have been attracted by the thread title if gender bias resonated with them. You do tend to find women who are overly concerned with the gender of their child do tend to want girls.

But in the population as a whole? I totally disagree with you. Most of my close friends wanted and got boys. I still think boys are valued very highly. People fear parenting girls will be fraught with stress.

CPtart · 25/02/2015 13:59

Girls are also more sought after in adoption. A process I would imagine most often led by the woman.

CarlaVeloso · 25/02/2015 14:07

Hmmm...more girls available to adopt though.

GotToBeInItToWinIt · 25/02/2015 14:12

I think boys are valued highly too. When we told IL's we were expecting our second DD (had just found out ourselves so full of excitement) the very first thing they said was 'oh, poor you' to DH. We were Shock.

CPtart · 25/02/2015 14:29

Is that worldwide though Carla? It is known boys are often favoured in many cultures outside the UK explaining why more girls are up for adoption. But in the UK, I still expect if you asked 1000 women if they could only have one child, a higher % would prefer a girl. And for men, a boy.

tethersend · 25/02/2015 14:51

Last year, 55% of children in care were boys, 45% girls- children adopted from care were 50% boys, 50% girls.

Clawdy · 25/02/2015 15:14

I have two close friends who desperately wanted children and were unable to have any. Many years later they both say it still hurts to hear people talk about preferring one gender over another,when they would have given anything for.... a baby.

mytartanscarf · 25/02/2015 15:21

I hate that argument though - sorry Clawdy.

Both my parents were dead before I turned twenty. Some people my age still have grandparents alive! I am happy for people to moan about their families!

Some people on here have gone through the unimaginable horror of losing a child - it doesn't mean people can't complain about toddler tantrums.

Some people are starving but I don't have to stuff myself.

it is the most stupid argument: it helps no one and it ignores the fact no one chooses how they feel.

duplodon · 25/02/2015 15:25

GD that's significant is usually complex. I found it hard to just have boys but I had therapy for PND and an awful lot of it is to do with complex unresolved grief for my dad, who I am nc with after he became almost a different, unrecognisable person due to substance abuse. It's not because I wish I could dress a kid in a pink tutu!

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