'Hold me back I'm bout' to sp**?' [[Title edited by MNHQ]]

[NoArmaniNoPunani]

I know Kanye West is a monumental douchecanoe but this line from his latest song with Paul McCartney is a step too far even for him.

I have CP and I never act like massive bellend Kanye.

AIBU to think Paul McCartney might have refused to put his name to a song that uses that line?

Otherwise you end up with Paris.
Bollocks.
The slippery slope logical fallacy is not applicable here.

When you normalise offensive and discriminatory language, you make it OK for twats to use it in an offensive and discriminatory way - as indeed some idiots in Paris did when they stopped a black man getting on the metro, presumably for a bit of a laugh - couldn't he take a joke?

You know, there are days when I do want to give up educating people, it's hard work, it's emotionally draining, I've had a rough night, we had the paramedics to dd last night, again, I was up 19 times in the night. People come onto these threads and talk about censorship, or shrug their shoulders and think that words don't matter. Words shape thinking, they shape societies, just look at what words are doing in the national press at the moment, shirker/worker, feckless poor. Words have increased disability hate crime, words have increased racism, but it really doesn't matter? I could cry all day everyday at this place and the few (fortunately) people who dismiss the very genuine concerns of the families of people with additional needs, and in some cases, people with additional needs, we're professionally offended, we need to chill, we need to relax people don't really mean it. When you live with it though, day in, day out, when you have to spend a significant amount of time, everyday reassuring your children that they are wonderful and do have something to contribute, when you spend sleepless nights wondering how the fuck you're going to get them to school in the morning because they can't cope with being called paki and spaz then come and tell me words don't mean anything and we don't need any censorship. Censorship is there to protect the most vulnerable and it is needed, if used carefully it is a tool for good.

Thank you DawnDonna and your DD for your honest and clear contributions to this thread.

Those who are defending the use of these outdated terms, get back to medieval times, where you belong.

Feeding puerile minds with the weapons they need to bully and hurt by throwing words like spaz and kong and retard, isn't the road to enlightenment either.

spastic Line breaks: spas|tic
Pronunciation: /?spast?k ?

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Definition of spastic in English:

adjective

1Relating to or affected by muscle spasm.

And if a doctor is using the word 'spastic' to discuss a muscle spasm, I will not object.

If Mr West is trying to communicate his problem with involuntary seizures via the medium of song, I think he should be a little less obscure and just make an appointment. I suspect he isn't.

merrymouse

Bollocks
Very eloquent

Well said DAWNDONNA, it is a totally abusive term used to attack those with disabilities. Disability hate crime surely has to be one of the most despicable crimes, attacking people who are at their weakest & most vulnerable.

yes, eloquent, in that it expresses exactly what Dawndonna (and others) think in a clear, fluent way. There isn't much else to say in response to your post, except for Bollocks, tbh.

Can anyone send this thread to KW and PMcC? I'd love to give them the chance to understand and change. Not that they should need it pointing out, but they obviously do.

Well said Dawndonna.

Disability discrimination is, I think, the last 'acceptable' way people can show prejudice. People who wouldn't dream of using n word etc or being homophobic still think they can 'intellectually' argue the toss about using words which are completely unacceptable but disability related.

It's wrong and very depressing.

I totally agree about the term Kanye has used. dawndonna's dd, I hope I could be half as eloquent if someone openly used a term attacking me.

Can someone though tell me (genuinely) what's wrong with 'meltdown'? I use this , as someone pointed out above I thought its origins were to do with IT. If it's an insult I need to check my language...

YABU hun

I see polter. Whenever I've used it, it was a kind of deliberate exaggeration, but I would never have thought about the term applied to a child with SN or disabilities. Thanks for explaining. I won't use it again.

to all the fuckers who think the s word is ok.
you won't mind me calling you cunts then

just a word

Bollocks
Very eloquent
I assume this is because it's all you could disagree with.

Terribly easy to be meh about something that doesn't affect you or your loved ones, I have always found.

I might have been called eloquent too.