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to think that woman on the jubilee line is a plain racist

328 replies

casusally · 16/02/2015 21:52

Listening to LBC today and lots of people where saying she did nothing racist saying "you guys used to be slaves". I'm glad the police are taking this seriously. Warning offensive video

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/woman-comes-forward-after-racist-rant-video-shot-on-jubilee-line-line-train-10049662.html

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TheChandler · 18/02/2015 19:37

Creighton you sound as though you have issues about women in general and don't come across as very rational. I have no idea why you would single out Standard arrogant white woman who knows nothing but whose 'opinion'must count, as opposed to people. The only reason to single out women in that regard must be because you have a problem with women. Perhaps they don't do what you want them to do, so you make up some story that fits your narrative?

In any case, yes, my reasons are better, for the reasons explained. I doubt you can understand them as you sound as if you have a closed mind, but they are certainly a lot better than your effort No she was in the wrong.

But yes, misrepresent the serious issue of racism by all means and try and use it for your own purposes. Because obviously, in your eyes, white women are more capeable arrogant than black women, of whom there were plenty not afraid to speak out in the video clip. You are terribly racist.

creighton · 18/02/2015 19:56

she deserved to be jeered. she was talking racist rubbish, talking about something that she knew nothing about. you can hear other people commenting about her behaviour. she wasn't intimidated by anyone, she enjoyed taking them on. she is not the poor victim. can someone tell me why she presumed to talk about his 'history'? why was she talking about slavery in London in 2015? can someone tell me what slavery has to do with his history?

TheChandler · 18/02/2015 20:00

Creighton
she deserved to be jeered. she was talking racist rubbish, talking about something that she knew nothing about

So are you. Do you deserve to be jeered at too?

What about if you provoked someone with offensive, racist comments until they snapped and you were able to pounce on them for saying something offensive and racist back? Would that cancel out your own racism? Because you have been very racist on this thread so far. and sexist, but obviously you don't know theres anything wrong with that

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:02

TheChandler, what in god's name do you know about being on the receiving end of racism? I am a woman, I just don't pander to 'poor little white women' who take the trouble to abuse people using their 'history' when it is clear that she knows nothing about them or their history. she sees a black man and presumes to lecture him about his history. all black people are not the same, all black people do not have the same history.

Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:03

Again why are her comments worse than the racist comments he and the other black woman on the train threw at her? Because she's white she is automatically wrong. All them people were not acting like humans they were acting like a disgusting lynch mob.

FreudiansSlipper · 18/02/2015 20:06

he certainly comes across as rather aggressive I would not deny that

but she proved him right, she believes that black people are angry because of slavery so would she react the same way to a white man who she feels is not angry

is it not possible for people to pick on these feelings that they are being judged with no words being said, I believe so

no it is not nice to be called racist when you are not and upsetting but heart breaking Hmm really when you are taking about racism seeing your father being spat at because of his colour, seeing your son/brother/father pulled over by the police because of his colour, knowing that your child will at times have to prove themselves against being a stereotype because of their colour, knowing your grandparents' were silenced again and again through fear because of their colour that is heart breaking

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Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:23

Sorry still laughing that a crazy internet nobody has told me i'm a white person and presumably one that has a history of lynching people in the same breath saying not all black people were slaves. Oh i get irony.

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:24

Let me explain to you people lacking a basic education about your own empire and your country's dealings with people in Africa and the Caribbean

-the black man is from West Africa, his family was not subject to slavery, the white woman's gibberish/patronising explanation of his subhuman/black behaviour was offensive and ignorant. no wonder he was so angry.

-the black woman who told her to shut up was offended by this know nothing white woman patronising someone using slavery as an excuse to be rude. she is of Caribbean origin and clearly does not like her family's history/suffering being used as a casual insult.

-the eastern European gobshite is white and so expects that she knows everything about everyone and so gave her ill considered opinion on the man's history

-the eastern European gobshite 'has black friends' so obviously cannot be racist

-the eastern European gobshite was enjoying herself, that is why she continued with her nonsense, she was not intimidated by the massed ranks of horrible lynching blacks.

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:26

I guess I have to assume that you didn't get the nuances of what was said by whom because all blacks are one and have the same history.

GraysAnalogy · 18/02/2015 20:26

Do you think that all of white people creighton or just this one in particular?

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:28

well, let me see, the people commenting on this thread aren't exactly the brains of Britain are they?

Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:29

Are you on crack? Haha this aint my empire. And actually i have a degree in colonialisation and british empire one thing i love about this country i now reside in. Its rich history. Just that history. No excuse for his arrogance and his ignorance or indeed the black womans racist anti-european remarks.

MaidOfStars · 18/02/2015 20:30

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creighton · 18/02/2015 20:31

you haven't got a degree in anything, your English is atrocious. you have a problem with the black people on the video but not the white woman, why not?

Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:32

Fyi i am from one of the most persecuted race of people in history so yeah bring it on that i know nothing about being on the receiving end.

GraysAnalogy · 18/02/2015 20:32

You didn't answer my question Creighton

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:33

where is the irony in talking about white people and lynch mobs?

Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:33

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MaidOfStars · 18/02/2015 20:33

the black man is from West Africa, his family was not subject to slavery, the white woman's gibberish/patronising explanation of his subhuman/black behaviour was offensive and ignorant. no wonder he was so angry
He was angry LONG before she mentioned anything about slavery.

creighton · 18/02/2015 20:35

I answered your question. have you considered any of the points I have made?

Tsoukalosy · 18/02/2015 20:36

So not all black people were slaves. But all white people are lynch mobs? Wow need to stick up for my white cousins more. And my english is atrocious? Haha really? Is it your first language?

GraysAnalogy · 18/02/2015 20:37

No you didn't answer my question. You deflected it, and quite poorly at that. I've read your posts, and some bits I agree with but it seems that this woman is not alone in sounding racist.