To think that Islamic state will cause world war 3

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I feel terrified for the future. I believe that the world will reach a point where there will be outright war to stop Islamic state. In the meantime Russia will annexe the Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe.

I am scared that Islamic state will get hold of atomic weapons. There are Muslim extremists with the intelligence to make a nuclear bomb. There are Muslim countries with uranium deposits.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining#/media/File:Uranium_production_world.PNG

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I grew up in the 1970's - our pool had women only session - to be women friendly not because of religion

Halal meat? not bothered at all (I love the ham sandwich comment)

The point is no one disputed these things happen - but most people choose not to get hysterical over it

Good for you. What about those of us that do eat meat and wish for our children to do so

sorry are you banned from feeding them a diet of nothing but haram meat in your own home?????

BBC on whether they are ISIL, ISIS, or Da'ish

Perhaps the latter might be worth adopting, as it takes the word/notion of Islamic out of the group's name? But I suppose that would only work if major English-language broadcasters worldwide all made the change.

As a white meat eater, i couldnt give a shiney shit whether my DD's diet is restricted (it wont be as she goes to a catholic school, although they do insist on fish and chip friday!) due to another religeon. I am not sure i would be happy for her to eat Halal meat as i don't know enough about it so it seems not having it at all seems a perfectly sensible option to me. Its called live and let live.

you sound quite racist actually Wilts

Wilts amazing articulate and spot on video clip. Thanks for posting.

And what about all those fuckers who insist that our children can't eat peanuts at school - When will it ever end!

sorry are you banned from feeding them a diet of nothing but haram meat in your own home?????

Not at all. And that's what I have to do now. Instead of their accepting that others eat differently, I have to accept that they do - it's all one way.

I can maintain my way of life in my own house but the public space is increasingly becoming alien.

there are some parts of the UK where you can;t go unless you are Muslim - like Birmingham

True fox news shite fact folks

Yeah, it's the fall of Rome all over again.
ffs
Hilarious bullshit about loss of courage and identity.

I can't get excited about removing pork from school menus tbh. If it was my decision I would probably keep it (in the area I live) but it doesn't bother me if it's removed, there are bigger issues to worry about. In areas where lots of pupils have halal/kosher requirements it makes financial sense to remove it surely? It's not like removing fruit and veg from the menu. Sausages aren't that healthy anyway.

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you sound quite racist actually Wilts

There we have it. Close down debate - cry 'raaaayyyycissssst' and hope the problem will go away.

Dinner beckons.

does any of this have cock all to do with Halal meat in Pizza Express - does it heck

Well actually I think it does. I refer to Dr Taj Hargey, progressive Islamic Cleric the most controversial Imam in the UK.

"Which begs the question: can this intellectual Oxford imam really succeed with his ambition to lead a 'reformation' of British Islam? Or will medieval orthodoxy triumph in the end?
Dr Hargey was born and raised in apartheid- era South Africa. The racist state classified him as 'coloured', a second-class citizen. One of eight children, his father was a supermarket packer; his mother illiterate. But Hargey was a natural scholar and destined for a better, if consistently controversial, existence"

He fought and battled with the powers that were in Apartheid South Africa and now his fight is with Islamic fundamentalism in the UK, and one way he said its seeping in, is through things like Halal meat.

Somebody will that's for sure. Russia doesn't look too friendly at the moment.

I think all school meals should be vegetarian. That way, Muslims, Jews, Catholics and Hindus will all be catered for.

this IS a spoof surely?

this isn't real?

Halal meat is hardly fundamentalist though - it's just meat

you tend to quote him a lot in these debates but he is only one voice - and being Muslim doesn't make him right - it's just one opinion

Fundamentalism of any sort should be challenged - but it's not just a Muslim thing!

those muslims you know, they've created climate change and that there global recession. it's all part of their plan to take over the world one halal takeaway at a time.

The point is no one disputed these things happen - but most people choose not to get hysterical over it

Yes and maybe we should be getting hysterical over it.

We Muslims should be appalled by the sale of halal meat by stealth

By Dr Taj Hargey

This is covert religious extremism and creeping Islamic fundamentalism making its way into Britain by the back door. It is completely wrong that the food sensitivities of Britain’s Muslims — who amount to just 4.8 per cent of the population — should take precedence over the other 95 per cent.

First of all, if you’ve just tucked into a chicken pizza without knowing it was halal meat, it hasn’t done you any physical harm. But it hasn’t done you any spiritual good, either. Muslims don’t believe that religious observance can be used as a holy shortcut or a ticket to paradise.

Furthermore, the idea that Muslims cannot eat non-halal food — food that is suitable for Christians — is completely wrong, and it has no theological basis in the Koran, the supreme text of Islam.

Eh whats the connection between loss of pork at school and IS?

it's not by stealth though - it's well publicised

I know many liberal decent human beings who happen to be Muslim who only eat Halal - it's basic teachings not crazy talk!

The difference is it hasn't always been readily available - it is now as there is more demand - so there is money in it

I'm sure women only swimming sessions is not a new thing.

The pictures of the Egyptians lined up was pretty chilling.

I'm not sure onestepcloser

you tend to quote him a lot in these debates but he is only one voice - and being Muslim doesn't make him right - it's just one opinion

Yes i do, because he is open minded, progressive Muslim who wants to modernism his religion to fit in with the UK, he wants men and women to pray together, which they can do at his mosque in Oxford, he wants to wake up the UK to Islamic fundamentalism creeping in.

He loves his god, his faith, and he knows far more about these complex issues than posters on MN!

I don't think they'll cause WW3 because they are useful idiots as far as the US goes. They're causing a headache for Russia and their allies and causing instability there and distracting the Middle East from Israel.

I think they'd like to cause WW3, I don't think they will.

However if levels of Islamic immigration to Europe increase I think we will probably have a civil war here.