To think that Islamic state will cause world war 3

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I feel terrified for the future. I believe that the world will reach a point where there will be outright war to stop Islamic state. In the meantime Russia will annexe the Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe.

I am scared that Islamic state will get hold of atomic weapons. There are Muslim extremists with the intelligence to make a nuclear bomb. There are Muslim countries with uranium deposits.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining#/media/File:Uranium_production_world.PNG

The Russia thing is bonkers.

WW3 could have started many times over during the cold war through the Korean and Vietnamese conflicts. The kind of violence was also routinely practiced during the Balkans era. I joined the army during this party and the stories that I'd heard were pretty horrific. The only reason Isis seem like stick a that now is due to a24 hour news cycle that has to be filled and watched. I'd also worry more about Ukraine/Russia than the middle east.

I've said all this for years

verbena you sound mad.

Lucy Wilts was quoting a speech which is in the YouTube link posted.

Army yes I agree with your post.

iSIS will be crushed by muddie eastern powers thank god.

Any person who kills is not affiliated to any religion so we should stop calling any terrorists 'Muslims' or 'Christians' they are not.

They are criminals and often psychopaths.

The child abuse in Rotherham had absolutely nothing to do with religion or race
The authorities were lazy and sloppy and failed to act to protect vulnerable young women
you are very wrong in this. the recent report said it was to do with race / religion. many girls complained about what was happening but the police and care home workers / social services refused to act on the information as it was deemed to be racially sensitive. they didn't want to be seen as saying nearly all the abuse was by Pakistani men on young girls ( though that was exactly what it was).
The social serves has in the last few weeks been effectively disbanded with all the top management removes as they were deemed not fit for purpose due to be crippled by political correctness.

I dont know martha, it wouldn't make sense on the face of it as all out nuclear war is relatively inexpensive to conduct and of course there is the old mutually assured destruction thing as well. I'm watching Greece with great interest, my heart is cheering them on but my head tells me that Europe cant let them win a write down at any cost, cast adrift Greece has already said they will look towards Russia for assistance.

From what I have read of the case it was the sexist stereotyping of these girls being 'slags' and 'cheap' so the police weren't interested. The authorities were lazy arses and so these vile gangs were able to abuse girls of all communities and races
they abused white girls.

Yes how can people forget so quickly what can, and did, happen when one group of people are constantly attacked and vilified.

As for the halal issue there is no bowing down to religious pressure. The corporations made the decisions based on economics and if you still can't understand that then you really need to go off and do some research.

I also love the way people are jumping up and down to defend Islam but not a word about the foolish anti-Russia bollocks in the OP. Hitler wasn't too fond of the Slavs, either... but no matter. You're obviously an ignoramus with no previous interest in the region if you refer to it as "the Ukraine," so, fortunately, there is no need for me to get involved in a discussion with you. It would be doing battle with the unarmed, as they say.

Any person who kills is not affiliated to any religion
well when they make a video in front of an Islamic flag and say we are doing this in the name of Islam and for the love of Allah, it's a bit tricky not to think they're affiliated a teeny bit with religion.

adsy, I did just quietly chortle at that.

Adsy - some of the abused girls in Rotherham were asian. They targeted vulnerable girls. Not that that has any relevance to a discussion about isis.

adsy

The authorities failing to act in cases of abuse is lazy and sloppy. The police were sexist and so blamed the girls.

Yes I agree that the climate of political correctness was at fault too but paedophile gangs are not affiliated to any religion.

By all means these paedophiles were British Pakistani men but they are not and never were Muslim/Christian etc.

We must I think segregate race and religion as try are not one and the same.

LoveMyCats
I was just about to post, when I noticed Adsy had said what I was about to say. If you read the report, those points were corroborated by a range of people. There is something wrong when a professional person, in a position of appointed responsibility, cannot stand up and act for fear of 'political correctness'. Political correctness is not law.

But I of course take your points as they have been stated in the reports.

Shocking and shameful.

There is a denial going on that there is any link between the Muslim religion, and violence, murder or terrorism. Until that is faced, these arguments will continue. IS is one coherent(ish) group but is not the only threat. Look at the shootings in Denmark yesterday, carried out by someone radicalised but not part of an organised IS cell.

Wars are not only started because of money, but about power and control based on ideology (eg fascism).

It's not just as simple as IS 'taking over' countries like Syria, where there are various factions all fighting each other, including a murderous regime. There are probably many Iraqis who don't see IS as any worse than saddam Hussein.

To say that all this has only to do with radicalism or extremism is disingenuous. Lots of this is being done in the name of a religion.

My point again is race and religion must be seperated.

Mainly because it's perfectly legal to take the piss out of religions and customs and criticise them. Thank god.

But race is rightly protected.

Again all points made about Rotherham I totally agree.

bialy

But don't you think it would be much better if news organisations and religious groups stop talking about 'Muslim' terrorists as the phrase doesn't make sense.

It allows terrorists to Blame crimes in religions. Which is obvious it bollicks.

I agree Isis is much the same as Saddam. It's just it threatens the west now. Sad dam was a monster but not a threat to the west as we now all know

lovemycats that is how they identify themselves. as muslims. committing these crimes in the name of Islam.

they abused white girls.

Yes and as anyone saw the panorama program in it saw, we do not know what they did behind closed doors, as someone from a charity to help abused Muslim women said 'If they are abusing these white girls in public, they are likely to be abusing the female members of their families at home" because they abuse, so the authorities let down women.

Adsy no there were Asian girls abused too.

The nazis called themselves Christians but they weren't were they?