To want to kill this cat?

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Looked out my window this afternoon while cleaning (and still feeling smug about it ) and saw next door's cat shitting on my garden [mad]

I went out to chase it away to find that it clearly isn't the first time it's done this!! Now my garden needs a mow as it hasn't been done since november (bloody rain) so I haven't seen the sea of shit that now hides in my grass. Pissed off doesn't even come close, I live in the country FFS and surrounded by fields so it's not like it's lacking in places to have a crap [mad]

How can I stop it shitting in my garden? My toddler has just started playing in the garden again now the weather is a bit better, I really don't want him to go blind!!! (ok so a bit melodramatic but still!)

Lilwelshyrs, I've reported your deeply unpleasant and illegal suggestions to the OP to Mumsnet, and suggest you stop enciting other people to poison household pets. Have you any idea how painful a death it is for a pet to die by antifreeze poisoning? You disgust me.

There are some good and very constructive suggestions here. One of which might be to talk to the cat's owner about providing a litter tray. Others include using a water gun, using large cat scat as a disincentive, approaching freeholder/landholder to ask the cat owner to abate the nuisance, etc etc.

We do have a cat; we also have foxes in our zone 3 suburban garden who shit everywhere and it is obviously a massive problem so I completely sympathise OP. Please do try negotiation and disturbance techniques, and please don't do as this poster suggests.

You can kill the cat so long as I can kill you [angry?

ACSlater, when you've nursed a cat whilst it slowly and agonisingly died after accidental poisoning and feel absolutely fine about it, then I'll care about your comments. Too bloody right references to happily poisoning cats make me angry.

Lilwelshyrs my sincere apologies - I didn't mean to make that mistake.

Frusso thanks for pointing that out.

Monkeyface I stand by my original comment. Whether or not you were attempting to be humorous is beside the point.

And one of the destructive things we do is to introduce species where they don't belong. e.g. grey squirrels into the UK, and artificially-created varieties of cats and dogs

So lets start modifying our own behaviour first rather than demonise creatures that don't posses high cognitive reasoning and are just doing what comes naturally.

We could start by stopping killing millions of them for food. The sight of them trapped on glue covered sticks is absolutely heartbreaking:
ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/07/songbird-migration/franzen-text

Not many posters outraged about this despite the fact that its occurring on British Army Bases www.wildlifeextra.com/go/news/HRH-speaks-out-014.html#cr

Intensive farming first here and now in Africa where the birds migrate to has caused massive destruction of their habitats as well as poising them. But then doing something that might mean we have to pay more for our food, so best to ignore that and go back to simply blaming creatures that have no control over how they behave.

Oh FFS. I WILL get those bastard cats who keep shitting in my front AND back gardens and I end up walking it into the house EVERY SODDING FUCKING DAY. I can't see it when I get home in the dark, so can't even check before I've walked it into my NEW FUCKING CARPET.

Yes, cats look lovely and furry and sweet and all that lovely stuff, but they're a fucking health hazard and I didn't choose to fucking live with one. I currently have no choice but to live in the house I do - it won't be forever, but in the meantime, I need to find a solution, because it affects my every day life.

FUCK.OFF.BASTARD.CATS. And their fuck-off disrespectful 'owners'.

Me? Angry? . Did I swear enough? FUCK OFF SCRAWNY CATS.

Oh, and how do I stand if I have a dog and it savages a cat that dared to assume my garden is safe?

Just askin'.

TinLizzie, that would depend upon how swiftly and competently you disposed of the evidence

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evil . Faster than anyone could say 'I haven't seen kitty for the last few minutes... I feel all unloved and unwanted'

I used to have cats. I'll never have one again. I can't think of a single more selfish pet choice. Anyone who owns cats is subjecting their wider community to unwanted pet care (shit clearing, dead creature disposal, marking sterilising, etc). I, personally, believe people ought to have the right to refuse that unwanted job by any means necessary.

There's no comparison between a cat and a wild creature (who might also crap, kill and mark). Wild creatures don't have some selfish, lazy arsed owner, sitting at home on their sofa, while the wider community takes care of said creatures lifestyle.

Cats aren't a 'low maintenance' pet, in comparison to dogs. They are a pet which everyone else has to maintain and an easy option for their 'owners' because of that fact.

I am aware or hope it's the case that most of these posts are lighthearted but want to add just incase they are not.

My dd was involved in a fatal accident and has PTSD along with other injuries.

She's terrified of the dark as the accident happened at night and she saw a much loved dead adult and other screaming and badly injured adults and children.

She was trapped and couid smell petrol. She thought she would burn to death.

Thankfully she was cut out of the wreckage and nearly 3 years down the line she's doing okish.

Her cat sleeps with her every night and snuggles up. When the cat went AWOL a while ago accidently locked in a garage she woke up time and again screaming and screaming.

Our cat is her salvation.

Please consider how much some pets mean to a family before you talk about poisoning them and hating them.

Look at your children and be grateful.

Don't underestimate the value of a pet.

Seeing as illegality has been mentioned, I will note that trespass is illegal. For some not very obvious reason, pet cats are exempted. However, regular shitting = tort of nuisance.

I agree that humans should sort out their own act before blaming animals. Actually, I don't blame the animals at all. Just the owners.

let's kill people's pets - twat.

Cat shit in the garden amongst the flowers is pretty harmless. Can you buy a tonne of Lion poo? It will keep all other animals at bay. I had a neighbor who put it around his roses and not only was it a fantastic fertilizer it kept moggies at 50 ft.

Lion/tiger dung, pepper, citrus and a water soaker.

Most effective thing we have (to stop the cat going into next door's garden as the woman has a phobia of them) is three motion sensor frogs from poundland. They are fucking terrified of the frogs and won't pass them.

They aren't the prettiest garden ornament in the world, but the work so it's worth it for a bit of neighbourly harmony (even if she did get everyone's backs up by sending notes to all the neighbours telling them they had to dispose of any cats before she even moved in).

I've tried pissing in the garden. Well, actually I discreetly urinated in a container inside the house, and then carefully poured the results in various places around the garden.

Didn't work.

I shall try running around the garden naked, bellowing at the top of my voice. That'll work for five minutes.

Love your cat? Want to own one? Then KEEP IT IN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE!!!!

Then everybody is happy!

Unfortunately that's cruel. It denies the cat the ability to behave normally, ie, shitting on my vegetable beds, digging up my seedlings, and molesting my chickens and putting them off the lay.

Better off not to have them at all, except in the zoo.

One of my dogs died from eating rat poison. I don't understand people who get their chortles from jokes about animal cruelty.

I bought a couple of Cat Stops, ultra sonic cat deterents that make a high pitched sound where an animal walks in front of them. I like my neighbour's cats and certainly don't want to hurt them. This just scares them off and discourages them from coming into our garden and making a mess.