To want to kill this cat?

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Looked out my window this afternoon while cleaning (and still feeling smug about it ) and saw next door's cat shitting on my garden [mad]

I went out to chase it away to find that it clearly isn't the first time it's done this!! Now my garden needs a mow as it hasn't been done since november (bloody rain) so I haven't seen the sea of shit that now hides in my grass. Pissed off doesn't even come close, I live in the country FFS and surrounded by fields so it's not like it's lacking in places to have a crap [mad]

How can I stop it shitting in my garden? My toddler has just started playing in the garden again now the weather is a bit better, I really don't want him to go blind!!! (ok so a bit melodramatic but still!)

1 out of my 3 cats occasionally shits in the litter tray. unless they are ridiculously constipated I canna do much else.

I really do think that everyone should be forced by law to have a litter tray at home if they have a cat.

So how would that work, then?

How about a Cat Warden to pick up (and put down if unclaimed) any cats found fouling other people's gardens? With a fine for reclaiming a cat that had been picked up. That ought to motivate the owners. And don't anybody tell me you can't train a cat. I've had two and they are very open to training. They perfectly understand the word no. People just don't try (just like they often don't with small dogs either imo).

So saying that the worst thing about your dogs ripping someone's beloved pet cat to pieces is you having to clean the blood off your dog's coat is not nasty?? Words fail me.

I'm getting a tiger.

Anyone owning a cat should take responsibility for its fouling ie get a litter tray and/or keep it indoors.

They are dirty, filthy, fouling pests and when I'm lucky enough can get one with a high pressure water jet and tip into into the drink ie canal/pond or other watery locations!!
I don't actually kill them tho' unfortunately

Part of the difficulty with cat fouling is that there are so many stray cats. Even if all owners ensured their cats had litter trays, there would still be some cat fouling, although the problem would certainly be reduced. In general I think it's a good idea although I don't know how it could be enforced.

It does depend on the cat as well. I used to have indoor/outdoor cats and they always came in to use the tray instead of shitting in the garden. But they were neutered females and only had a very small territory, so even if they hadn't used the tray they would still have stayed in my garden - they never went into the neighbours' gardens for any reason. Intact males wander much further and have a much larger territory, and are more likely to want to mark it.

I think Australia recently introduced some interesting policies on cat ownership, including mandatory microchipping and registration. Maybe something like that would work in the UK?

Yes to the Au policies. Where I live an animal has to be registered and microchipped. There are reductions for pensioners and neutered animals. The registration has to be renewed annually with fines of nearly $300 if you don't.

I'm pretty cynical about the Council's motives as they do fuck all about the foxes, while wittering on about cats eating native animals. All waste is in very sturdy wheelie bins, so the foxes aren't scoffing take away, it's other wild animals they eat.

I honestly don't know what cat owners are meant to be 'motivated' to do about it I'm sure most cat owners would prefer their cats shit in a tray, but really they are independent, free roaming animals, its always been that way. It is impossible to police cat shit. What I can't stand are the filthy dog shits left on pavements, there's literally no excuse for not picking up a dog turd as they are always supervised.

Maybe if cat owners supervised their cats they could pick up their shit. Dogs would be free roaming if their owners were irresponsible and antisocial enough to let them.

Can't see the difference, myself. You own an animal, deal with its shit.

I don't actually own an animal, but hypothetically dogs are supervised from a safety point of view because they have the habit of going AWOL/attacking people and things/getting lost/having zero road sense/attacking other dogs in a brutal fashion. Cats are naturally idependent and able to find their way home, usually take care of themselves, dogs just lack that capability and have the potential to cause serious injury and death. It is impossible for most cats to take them for a walk on a lead, hence its not the done thing.

On our walk to school I have to step over multiple dog shits on the pavement, and I just think how and why? Surely the owner must have been aware, why not pick it up?? I have yet to see on cat shit on the pavement despite how freely they roam.

I don't actually own an animal, but hypothetically dogs are supervised from a safety point of view because they have the habit of going AWOL/attacking people and things/getting lost/having zero road sense/attacking other dogs in a brutal fashion.

So, have you actually had free running dogs before or is this merely conjecture? Because I have had free running dogs before and they have displayed none of the behaviours you associate with them. Hundreds of thousands of farm dogs have not displayed the behaviours you describe. In many countries, dogs are the sole shepherds of flocks, due to their intelligence and capabilities. You think cats are more capable than dogs? Very amusing.

Cats, on the other hand do regularly kill, do shit on other peoples property and are killed on the roads. They are nothing but a pest, for the wide community and local wildlife.

I don't actually own an animal, but hypothetically dogs are supervised from a safety point of view because they have the habit of going AWOL/attacking people and things/getting lost/having zero road sense/attacking other dogs in a brutal fashion.

So, have you actually had free running dogs before or is this merely conjecture? Because I have had free running dogs before and they have displayed none of the behaviours you associate with them. Hundreds of thousands of farm dogs have not displayed the behaviours you describe. In many countries, dogs are the sole shepherds of flocks, due to their intelligence and capabilities. You think cats are more capable than dogs? Very amusing.

Cats, on the other hand do regularly kill, do shit on other peoples property and are killed on the roads. They are nothing but a pest, for the wide community and local wildlife.

So saying that the worst thing about your dogs ripping someone's beloved pet cat to pieces is you having to clean the blood off your dog's coat is not nasty?? Words fail me

Well if they loved their cat that much then they'd build a run in the garden and not let them roam, that's clearly a risk they're prepared to take. They obviously accept that one day the cat may not come back. And no, cleaning blood off a white dog is not that much fun. At least we don't have a squirrel problem in the garden though.

rich give up.

We obviously have to accept other people's pet in our garden otherwise we are child abusing sickos.

I live in a city, free running dogs are highly impractical in this environment. Surely you can't be advocating letting dogs run about the same way cats do purely for their size if nothing else. Plus some owners have enough trouble controlling their dogs on leads and running free in parks to imagine them running free in the streets etc as well!

Dogs have the potential to do serious injury to a person in the street, cats really don't, there's no getting away from that fact no matter how well trained, or cared for the particular dog in question is. This point is incidental though to the fact that dog owners are aware of where their dogs have been, and therefore can pick up their shit, cat owners as a rule do not. By all means deter a cat with spraying water guns etc, noone wants shit in their garden. Its just that cats and dogs are completely different species,with completely different behaviors so you can't expect the same from cat and dog owners. Cats tend to hide their shit as well,dogs will pop a squat anywhere. If dogs roamed free the pavements would be caked in shit!

Rich has just proved why uncontrolled dogs are a menance, its one thing to kill a cat, another a child, and let's not pretend that doesn't happen. So many times a dog has been straining against its lead to get to my dd and I just think why have an animal like that? Its completely irresponsible.

I live in a city, free running dogs are highly impractical in this environment.

As are cats, obviously, due to the cat shit everywhere, corpses and stinky marking, which everyone but the owner, is forced to deal with.

Cats are an incredibly selfish pet choice. They are low maintenance only for their lazy arsed owners and high maintenance for the wider community, who are forced to take responsibility for caring for that other persons pet, by clearing it's shit, collecting the corpses of its kills and sanitising its marking spots.

Cats are completely impractical, for everyone but their 'owners'.

Build a run do you know what a cat is, as opposed to a say a rabbit or a guniea pig? Sigh, so much ignorance. The same dog owners who say 'well he never did that before' after their dog rips someone's ear off. I love animals but no way are they more important than the safety of a human, and honestly if you don't control your dog enough not to attack things when your out and about together you shouldn't have one.

What's the point of dogs then by that logic? Dogs are impractical because half their owners can't control them (as evidenced by this thread). When I'm out and about with dc's its always the dogs that give them jip, never been terrorized by a cat yet just dogs. and never stepped in cat shit, just dog shit that some lazy owner CBA to pick up off the middle of the pavement!

Why have you started talking about dangerous dogs

And why ignorance?

I don't own a cat. I don't want a cat on my property. If one comes onto my property, it takes its chances. If an owner wants a cat, it should make sure it's not bothering other people.

Hence I don't allow my dog to run around other people's gardens

Build a run do you know what a cat is, as opposed to a say a rabbit or a guniea pig? Sigh, so much ignorance.

Yes. Your ignorance is astounding. Do you know wat a dog is? Naturally, dogs should run free! For the benefit of the public, the environment and their own safety, we don't let them. Nor should we allow cats to.

I certainly wouldn't let my dogs shit in any garden in my community and I should not have to deal with the shit of other peoples cats, in mine. And they don't bury it, by the way. They quite happily shit all over my patios - if my dogs aren't about.

I agree noone wants shit in their garden full stop, which is why people should spray cats with water as a deterrent, and nine times out of ten they will learn and not come back. Realistically though there isnt much else owners can do, aside for keeping cats in all the time but some people think this is cruel. Dog owners don't even make sure their pets dont bother any body and its much easier to do so seeing as dogs don't tend to run free. The bloody yapping we used to get from next door was a literal nightmare, but i understand there isnt a lot the owners can do about that! If we are comparing cats and dogs, which someone started doing up thread, dogs are a far bigger menance in terms of the damage they can do.

bigjim, you're phobia surrounding dogs is quite clear from your posts . Which is making rational communication somewhat difficult.

What's the point of dogs then by that logic? Dogs are impractical because half their owners can't control them (as evidenced by this thread).

Are you referring to the dogs mentioned, who will react to cats which intrude upon their territory?

Dog owners don't even make sure their pets dont bother any body

I know, personally, many dog owners who do ensure their dogs don't bother anybody. I know no cat owners who do the same. Every house where I live has both cats and dogs. The cats are by far the problem pet, here.

The bloody yapping we used to get from next door was a literal nightmare, but i understand there isnt a lot the owners can do about that!

Actually, this is unacceptable and there's plenty which a conscientious owner could and would do, to ensure their neighbours right to peace is respected and protected.