...to ask MN-ers NOT to join in this glorification of domestic abuse? (contains spoilers)

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Fifty Shades of Shite

Can't believe the naivety and abuse deniers on here and amongst my friends.

DV campaigners such as Womens Aid & National Centre for Domestic Violence are urging people not to see this film.

It is not "just a piece of fun" it normalises abusive, controlling relationships as sexy, and it really bothers me so many women are colluding in supporting such crap that could hurt other more vulnerable women.

The BDSM community are frothing too as if done properly between 2 consenting adults with lots of planning, mutual respect and lots of affection and downtime after it can, for some, apparently be mindblowing. ( doesn't lift my skirt but respect those who do enjoy) this is not portrayed safely in this film.

pineapple locate the word "opinion" in my post where I said I want to talk about the dominator's motivation.

You discuss what you want with whom you want. I don't need to do it because you say so

Fine don't discuss it but then don't say you would rather discuss these motivations with dominator and then turn one down

Maryz he also said I need a good shag. That might have been my first bingo marker.

How is discussing their fantasies with someone who will tell them it's natural and fine to think whatever they like going to help?

I can tell the difference and if I can't she can all ways say stop. My wife's asks me to do it all. I do it as she likes it and to be honest, my wife is probably the Dom in the bed and I'm the sub, very similar to pineapple I guess.

If somebody likes to be forcefully 'taken', then by definition that is not rape. Because there is consent, you know, when somebody wants the other person to do something to them or with them?? NOT RAPE - pretend role play, lovely, but not rape in any way shape or form.

I thought I was the only person left who had not read any of the books and won't see the movie/s either.
I was put when I was told how badly written they were .

Oh yes, and the whole 'love will conquer all' damaging nonsense, that too.

Because by discussing and talking about what outcomes the thinker wants you can find an appropriate activity to deal with this whether that be therapy or role play it is not my.place to deem what is right for people who have these thoughts

I never said I would encourage it just that they had every right to think those thoughts

There's only one thing worse than watching a crap film/ reading the book and that's somebody preaching ill informed shite.
If somebody is going to see/read it they will.
do you really think you will discourage them

Plus you can't cure paedophilia with therapy just like you can't cure homosexuality so surely role playing is better than actually raping a child. I would rather than aww the all paedophiles role played rather than actually harming children

House - it wasn't rules in though. Your just throwing mud and hope it sticks.

I don't role-playing anything offensive I said don't role play rape I enjoy to be tied and whipped and shagged the bdsm I don't role play child abuse or.rape or torture

I would generally prefer to talk about the motivations of the person doing the beating, raping or whipping. I don't see that behaviour as positive in any way whatsoever

Here is your quote again I can read you want to talk to the one doing the whipping but won't talk to onering

How is discussing their fantasies with someone who will tell them it's natural and fine to think whatever they like going to help?

Because hopefully they wouldn't tell them it was fine, but that they need to get help with it.

Maybe I haven't worded my posts in the right way. I've tried to say time and time again I'm not ENDORSING people who have these thoughts, I feel downright sorry for them because I bet if they could change themselves by taking a pill every morning they would. And that to me is absolutely tragic. And if even one child could be saved from the horrendously life destroying act that is child abuse by more people standing up and telling people who have these thoughts that there is somewhere they can go where people will listen, and not cast them out of society for what is most likely a psychological issue out with their control, well then I think thats something society needs to think about.

I'm sorry if my post offended anyone in the process. I guess I just have too much empathy in where everyone else sees a monster, I see a very unlucky hand dealt to them at birth. And that doesn't mean I can't feel more strongly about the victim of course, as is right in these situations.

I am also sorry if I offended people and I think the child abuse points and canabalism are not relevant to bdsm which is what we were originally discussing and the two should not be compared

Not like the others I can't fully explain my no situation because it won't make sense because I never say no to sex just to one particular act (vanilla act) which I feel I can't take more of yet I can and need him to push so I can get full pleasure. I never say no in bdsm or at the beginning so no I don't role-play rape

pineapple

Please stop...flora said she "wanted to talk ABOUT the motivation" of a dom..... Not TO a dom