...to ask MN-ers NOT to join in this glorification of domestic abuse? (contains spoilers)

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Fifty Shades of Shite

Can't believe the naivety and abuse deniers on here and amongst my friends.

DV campaigners such as Womens Aid & National Centre for Domestic Violence are urging people not to see this film.

It is not "just a piece of fun" it normalises abusive, controlling relationships as sexy, and it really bothers me so many women are colluding in supporting such crap that could hurt other more vulnerable women.

The BDSM community are frothing too as if done properly between 2 consenting adults with lots of planning, mutual respect and lots of affection and downtime after it can, for some, apparently be mindblowing. ( doesn't lift my skirt but respect those who do enjoy) this is not portrayed safely in this film.

it is anti feminist to tell women how to behave as very active and feel

1. I did not tell you how to behave or feel. I told you what I think about how you behave and feel. Very, very big difference.

1. Excuse me if I don't take schooling from you on what is feminist and what isn't. I have made it clear to you that there are different schools of feminism and some do, in fact, support the choice is everything mantra.

Very well then let's leave feminism out of this I have a personal preference you don't share
Flora you wanted a man's opinion and input I believe I read that there is one here

wannabe I agree with what you say. It seems some people are willing to overlook a great deal of disturbing behaviour so they don't need to examine their own or their Hs.

And i'll be sure to tell DH when he gets home that a random on the internet thinks hes a threat to her personal safety hahaha!

I've heard a lot about the "mind of a rape fantasist" and it certainly involves being so crazy about Mrs H that he can't keep his hands off her. Not Flora, not Betty, not some random at work or on the street, Mrs H and only Mrs H.

We enjoy it and can assure you we are not a threat to anyone else..!

Where did I say I wanted a man's opinion? More reading fails. I can see men's opinions on women's domination every fucking where I look.

Yep man haters maybe to ignore the man who doesn't get anything from domination but said he did it for his wife surely trying to understand him might be useful to expand your insight

I would generally prefer to talk about the motivations of the person doing the beating, raping or whipping. I don't see that behaviour as positive in any way whatsoever.
Here is your quote

I can see men's opinions on women's domination every fucking where I look.

What are you on about or where do you live? I don't make my wife walk ten steps behind me!

"man haters" ! BINGO!

pineapple try reading what you've pasted and colour in where I said I wanted a man's opinion.

So a domination opinion is only valid if it is from a woman wow okay a little sexism there

So you only want a dominaters opinion if it was a women.

I am happy to answer any questions you would like to ask.

I would generally prefer to talk about the motivations of the person doing the beating, raping or whipping. I don't see that behaviour as positive in any way whatsoever.

Where did I say I wanted a man's opinion?

Emmm.... right there????

Unless you wanted to talk about someone without letting them be part of the conversation?

I think you come across as either a very angry person or very delusional. I've never come across anyone who gets so angry about something that doesn't affect them in any way shape or form.

Just accept that everyones different and as long as no one feels harmed in the process then its ok to let it go.

Evening all,
We have had this thread reported to us several times tonight, and we can see that it has descended into a bit of a slanging match. It's an interesting discussion, of course, but could we politely ask that everyone bear in mind that the purpose of MN is to make people's lives easier etc?

You didn't specifically say man but you want a domination opinion and there is someone willing to offer it but now you don't want to know because it is a man

I apologise yetanother and will keep it polite and debatey

Maryz is right it is off topic and maybe a new thread with the appropriate heading would be a better discussion place

pineapple unlike you, I don't need to be forced to do what a man wants.

Hamiltoes I can want to discuss murder without wishing to talk to a murderer. [ZOMG SOMEONE SAID MURDER ON A BDSM TOPIC!]

I am monumentally unbothered by your assessment of my character.

I did not say I wanted a domination opinion, I have had lots of discussions with people who like to dominate.

Given onering's stellar contributions earlier today, I have no interest in his opinion. It's not because he is a man, it is because I don't care what he thinks.

You did say you wanted the opinion I quoted it so don't deny that.
I am not forced to do what my husband what's I ask him to do what I want. I would rather discuss murder with a murderer because you get a better insight as to why they did it.

I wouldn't be happy about it no but they would have the right to do it nd surely discussing these fantasies is better than hiding them and struggling on ones own

Maryz I also said that in my relationship my dh can tell the difference between no and actual no when we do bdsm