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WIBU to consider writing to every man in the world

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 13:50

To inform them all (probably leave Dh out of the round robin) that I do not want to have sex with them unless and until further formal notice from me?

As it seems that there is such confusion among so many people about the nature of consent I want to avoid putting any of them in the terribly awkward position of wondering whether simply being in the same room as them means they are invited to stick their dick in me.
So is that an unreasonable proposition?

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TheCowThatLaughs · 08/01/2015 14:32

Well maybe we should just send an open letter to everyone then?
And anyone of either sex who raped anyone after that date, would have no excuse at all Smile

OnlyLovers · 08/01/2015 14:33

TheCow, sure, why not? But I think you're missing my point, and I suspect you're doing so deliberately.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:33

Get typing cow

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TheCowThatLaughs · 08/01/2015 14:33

That was to only lovers

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 08/01/2015 14:34

Yes, carry on. Don't send one to my Nigel though Smile

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:34

only i thought you and cow were pretty much on the same page tbh.
Sorry if i confused things.

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TheCowThatLaughs · 08/01/2015 14:34

No, only lovers, I genuinely don't understand your point, could you explain please

GallicShrug · 08/01/2015 14:35

YANBU and some replies here show why not Grin

I was thinking we might all have a scarf or something with "No" written very clearly on it. We can take it off if we feel like a Yes :)

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:36

[Grin] garlic

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ApocalypseThen · 08/01/2015 14:36

The 'all men are rapists' vibe does kinda take the edge off the "sardonic wit" though. Maybe think twice about stand up as a serious career choice

Joking about rape isn't funny (unless it's directed at women).

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:37

Or a tshirt.
Maybe get a few or laundry day could be dismal.

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TheCowThatLaughs · 08/01/2015 14:37

I don't think I am on the same page as only but it's a bit hard to tell

partialderivative · 08/01/2015 14:38

WIBU to consider writing to every man in the world

But Amanda, you are irresistible to every male! None of us can contain ourselves!

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:40

Im definitely not joking about rape.
And i am not saying all men are rapists

I am taking the piss put of the commonly held view that unless a woman explicitly says she does not want to have sex then she is in a default setting of consent.

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needaholidaynow · 08/01/2015 14:40

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ofshoes · 08/01/2015 14:41

Hmmm, it was OP that was doing the joking apparently. I wouldn't say there was anything funny about any of this. I also don't think victims of sexual assault would think that it was funny to infere that if they'd asked nicely they wouldn't have been raped. But what would I know

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:43

No. Not ok then actually.
I'm not sure I can spot a rapist tbh.
I assume a man who does not want to have sex with me will not give a shit about being told I dont want to have sex with him.
Unless he has a very large and fragile ego.

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AskYourOperator · 08/01/2015 14:47

This is a depressing thread.

It's clearly satirical - not joking about rape/rapists but instead illuminating the fact that women are seen to be available to fuck as a default.

Good Christ, this wouldn't have needed spelling out in the olden days of yore.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:48

I do know that a victim of sexual assault does not want to be told that they should have asked not to be raped.
Which is what is being said by many people, all the time, when they imply because a woman has not said "no" explicitly, she has in fact said "yes".

No. Its not funny.
But the "perpetual state of consent" viewpoint deserves the piss taken out of it.

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Amrapaali · 08/01/2015 14:48

Wow!! MN needs a huu-uuge injection of irony. The stores are completely depleted.

How are people likening the OP to another Samantha Brick? "You think you are so attractive?" "Why would any man want to have sex with you?" What is wrong with you people? Do you not see where the OP is coming from? Or are other posters being deliberately obtuse?

OP, YANBU. Go ahead and write the letter. Make sure you don't waste paper though, try email Wink

But I don't understand why you would leave DH out of it. Consent is also needed in marital sex. Or sex in a LT relationship.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:49

I have to go in a minute, not flouncing or ignoring, just picking up the DCs.
I will be back Grin
Thanks for all the replies.
And double thanks to those who understood.

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partialderivative · 08/01/2015 14:51

I am taking the piss out of the commonly held view that unless a woman explicitly says she does not want to have sex then she is in a default setting of consent.

I do not understand what this has to do with your initial OP message.

I also do not understand what this has to do with the 'average' male

ASunnyTiger · 08/01/2015 14:52

I'll let DH know myself, save you a stamp.

TheRealAmandaClarke · 08/01/2015 14:52

Ah yes that is true about consent needed in marriage.
But i suppose it wouldnt be nice to tell dh that i never wanted sex with him unless i asked specifically.
And i might not get round to drafting the consent letter.
So we will have to go on verbal contracts Grin

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TheCowThatLaughs · 08/01/2015 14:53

As amrapaali says, I think some people on the thread are being deliberately obtuse Hmm