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To ask you all to sign petition regarding Oldham and Ched Evans

999 replies

floatyflo · 04/01/2015 18:48

Actually I don't believe I am being unreasonable. But wanted to bring it to attention.

MN seems to be a quiet on this today but I think the fight should still go on. I can't link to it as I am so not tech savvy enough but it is on change.org. (Same person whk set up the Sheffield Weds one so of you sogned that one it is pretty easy to locate).Already has over 9000 signatures so please please please continue to sign and share!

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hobnobsaremyfavourite · 04/01/2015 22:23

Maybe its time to start a social media campaign aimed at the clubs sponsers/patrons/celebrity fans?
It worked with SUFC and a club in such a poor financial state wouldn't want to lose its sponsors surely.

londonrach · 04/01/2015 22:24

Not sure its a done deal yet. Sorry re the dm link. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2896468/Ched-Evans-facing-setback-Oldham-reconsidering-furious-backlash.html

AWholeLottaNosy · 04/01/2015 22:26

Willferrell, despite disagreeing with your user name Smile sadly I do agree with you and I bet some of those guys are internally cheering him on. Gross!

anothermakesthree · 04/01/2015 22:26

I do find threads like this tyrannical!! It's almost as if you can't query anything without a load of sneering comments being thrown your way. I have many thoughts & questions about this case, wouldn't dream of raising them on this forum.

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 04/01/2015 22:28

Whonare oldham athleyic's main sponsors?
Maybe we could tweet the ceo our thoughts?

RustyParker · 04/01/2015 22:28

Oh they must have done this before Mamadoc - no man goes from zero to sex with their mate without testing the boundaries and pushing them further each time.

I've known my best friend for 25 years and I've never seen her vagina despite sharing the loo on several hundreds of drunken nights out

BoneyBackJefferson · 04/01/2015 22:28

Mengog
"Rumours are he has already signed. Announced tomorrow."

But aren't Oldham partially owned by the fans (or something) and they have to put signings through them as they pay some of the wages?

clam · 04/01/2015 22:29

Depends if those thoughts include things like "she cried rape."

JeanSeberg · 04/01/2015 22:29

Sports Direct.

Greysanderson · 04/01/2015 22:32

By all accounts they don't have much to lose they are doing incredibly badly at the moment and if they are relegated the club might be finished. From their point of view signing him is a risk but if it pays off then they will probably consider it worth the trouble they may get.

elfycat · 04/01/2015 22:32

anothermakesthree

But it's AIBU. We're allowed to argue (within guidelines) Grin

And it's rather hard to argue against a confession, CPS prosecution, jury, and 2 judges.

As I said upthread I'll engage with rational discussion. But not with people who can't read the facts or work out or look up what 'On Licence' means. And then rave or rant because we're not agreeing with their point of view.

RustyParker · 04/01/2015 22:33

I genuinely don't think other posters are sneering at innocent comments from others another. Its only when those posters state things as fact which have been proven as untrue in court, blame the victim or regurgitate "facts" from the biased and lie-laden Ched's own website.

If you have any questions then I'm sure posters will be happy to answer them Smile

clam · 04/01/2015 22:33

I'm confused by Oldham saying they "believe his side of the story." There aren't two sides to the story - Evans was convicted on his own evidence. It's the law that says what he did was rape.

Ratbagcatbag · 04/01/2015 22:34

Signed. Will email sponsors tomorrow.

clam · 04/01/2015 22:36

And I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Oldham boardroom right now. They were said to be 50:50 earlier on, when the petition was at 8000. It's now at nearly 18,000.

AWholeLottaNosy · 04/01/2015 22:41

I would totally agree that they've done this kind of thing before. What kind of mates would take having a drunken threesome like this ( as they saw it) so lightly?

SomebodysRealName · 04/01/2015 22:41

"Senior officials at Oldham are understood to believe Evans' side of the story."

Isn't Evans' side of the story that he did rape her but he doesn't understand/accept it?

Mamadoc it does go on all the time. Sadly there are a lot of men who, given the choice between risking raping someone or risking foregoing sex, choose risking raping someone.

AWholeLottaNosy · 04/01/2015 22:43

Male solidarity at its best. Not.

meditrina · 04/01/2015 22:44

"But aren't Oldham partially owned by the fans (or something) and they have to put signings through them as they pay some of the wages?"

If the DM article linked by londonrach is accurate, the Trust has not yet been consulted.

I am speculating here, but this has all happened on a Sunday, and is only known about because the press got wind of it. Was it all planned to happen as a fait accompli tomorrow? If so, it's backfired.

No one with football supporting DC wants them cheering a convicted rapist.

And indeed given Oldham's previous controversial signings, that this case has brought back to the fore and attracted a further slew of criticism that it should never have happened either, this proposal is just perhaps going to kick all those convicted of an offence carrying a custodial sentence out of football.

Jux · 04/01/2015 22:45

anothermakesthree, look at the difference between the replies to MinnieM1 and grannytomine. Look at the difference between what they posted to get those responses.

One doesn't know the case and is asking for information.

One doesn't know the case but makes up 'facts', talks bollocks and perpetuates rape myths.

It's not a difference of opinion. It's a difference in reality, and that made up reality is damned offensive.

fuctifino · 04/01/2015 22:46

Many years ago, a man working in the same institution as myself but in a different department, went to prison.
The first we knew of him was when we were asked if we would accept him into our department as his previous department did not want him.
After a bit of a conflab, we unanimously decided to give him a chance.

Would I do the same again? Yes I would.
Everybody deserves a 2nd chance.

I hope Ched Evans does find a club to take him on. And a small part of me is curious to see how both the team's and opposition supporters treat him.

Fairyfellowsmasterstroke · 04/01/2015 22:46

At the risk of courting further controversy I'd say "It's a mans world".

We are in 2015 but men still seem to make the rules and set the goal posts at wherever they seem to want them. Some men clearly see a football team's place in the league as being more important than the views of many.

My heart truely goes out to his victim and her family - justice has not been served but hey, "it's a man's world"!!!!

AuntieStella · 04/01/2015 22:47

During the 4 hours this thread has been running, the number of signatures has doubled.

9,000 in that time means 37 a minute ie more than one every 2 seconds.

TheOfficialPan · 04/01/2015 22:52

Sure Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Once they have learned the lessons of the 1st 'chance'. Otherwise there is no progress or improvement on the 1st chance. And the risks remain the same. This is fairly fundamental to '2nd chance and rehabilitation' concepts. Which CE doesn't recognise at all.

clam · 04/01/2015 22:54

I tried, but gave up doing the maths on that one, stella. Blush
Well done!