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To ask if anyone is setting up a fb page to discuss Tricky Dicky?

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IAmOnMyBike · 03/01/2015 20:53

It seems we are not allowed to speak about anything negative elsewhere. Please do not speak badly of Tricky Dicky and co.

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ArsenicFaceCream · 04/01/2015 10:59

The hun thing is very rude, I agree.

MidniteScribbler · 04/01/2015 11:00

Any legitimate fundraising should go through registered charities that are set up to not only transparently deal with the funds, but also provide a legitimate 'face' to the charity, can deal with media, and also provide protection for the person coordinating the fundraising.

It's not hard. I did it about seven years ago. Rang a very prominent charity and had a chat, told them what we were doing, why, etc. They investigated the cause themselves to make sure it was legitimate, then provided us with the rights to use their name and logo, a bank account, access to their media people, and liaised with the family that funds were being raised for. We raised over $20k, and the charity administered the funds to the family as needed (with proof of the actual cost of what was needed - not for new knickers!), and any additional raised became a donation to the charity themselves. Cost me nothing for them to do all this, and I never touched any money. I did all the hard yards, they provided the legitimate 'face' to the cause, and meant people weren't handing over cash to a random person with no idea of where it is going.

PolterGoose · 04/01/2015 11:02

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ArsenicFaceCream · 04/01/2015 11:03

But, Nerf they are publicly appealing for money. It isn't just a whip round amongst friends, so they have to observe some legalities.

GraysAnalogy · 04/01/2015 11:04

At the beginning of the other thread I said what I thought about those picking about the families life and im glad that seem to have stopped.

If people want to donate still that's brilliant and more power to them, but when people are being directed to the gofundme via news articles saying they need money for medical bills it's important people are able to correct that and ask for more transparency. Unfortunately that was met with abuse and deletions.

ModernToss · 04/01/2015 11:05

"Bandwagon jumping" = lots of people feeling the same disquiet and reaching the same conclusions, MNHQ. Not the same thing at all.

YoullLikeItNotaLot · 04/01/2015 11:05

In fact, the more I think about bring told what "we" should be focussing on, the more annoyed I am. Do MNHQ think their members are incapable of displaying compassion and scepticism?

It's not the " spirit of the site" - what tosh! The MN way is whatever posters make it. Or the site could be closed to posters and we could read reviews of mothecare products to preserve the "spirit of the site"

littleteapotshortandstout · 04/01/2015 11:05

I feel sorry for the baby, if his parents are such feckless idiots they prioritise a luxury trip to NY over buying basic necessities for their child.

They've money for both you say? Well then why are they and their mate touting for cash on FB then?...

It can't and won't be made a charity. Because it's not legitimate fundraising.

curiousgeorgie · 04/01/2015 11:06

If anyone is admin on the group a few people are waiting to be accepted...

AlpacaYourThings · 04/01/2015 11:06

Agree with PolterGoose

Nerf · 04/01/2015 11:07

No, there's no law saying that should happen. Credit to you for the way you did it, but that was your choice. This is a cause set up by a friend, clearly not someone any of you would be friends with but it seems that the people donating are happy. I just feel this is turning into a witch hunt with people trawling FB pages for evidence against him and the parents to show they aren't deserving because they , in your opinions, should be selling all their assets ( from America?) To cover their expenses.

AlpacaYourThings · 04/01/2015 11:07

if his parents are such feckless idiots I don't think that's fair littleteapots

hopingforamiracle · 04/01/2015 11:09

Is anyone going to report this to the police?

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RebeccaMumsnet · 04/01/2015 11:09

As we have said, it is fine to talk about the news story but we will be removing nasty personal attacks about individuals.

GraysAnalogy · 04/01/2015 11:10

Nerf I completely understand where you're coming from and whether they're 'deserving' or not hasn't been an issue for me. I have no problem with the parents who will probably be gobsmacked that people are receiving abuse and that there's a serious lack of consistency in the fundraising in their name.

But now people are being asked to fund items for when they're back home. Cots etc. Taking the mick somewhat I would say. And offers of pre-used items are declined.

asmallandnoisymonkey · 04/01/2015 11:10

Surely the focus should be on the baby and the family and not on someone who has set up a fundraising page off his own back?

Err.. no? The focus is whatever we choose it to be, especially when there seems to be some alleged fraudulent activity in relation to donations. Sorry, but you are on a VERY slippery slope here telling people what aspect of a story to discuss.

YoullLikeItNotaLot · 04/01/2015 11:11

So couldn't that have been done on the original thread rather than deleting entirely Rebecca ?

GraysAnalogy · 04/01/2015 11:11

Thankyou Rebecca completely agree with that. I hope you don't think I was having a go at you, it's not you just the situation. I re read my posts and they may have been a bit snippy (I haven't slept yet Blush )

Nerf · 04/01/2015 11:12

But it's all being twisted. All you know is the friend says they haven't bought anything yet,and maybe he wants to do something nice, as do a lot of people who know of them. At 29 weeks not buying stuff could be anything - superstition, previous losses, waiting for payday.
This is just starting to feel plain nasty.

ArsenicFaceCream · 04/01/2015 11:13

I'm not admin but apparently members can confirm ppl they are FB friends with, so if anyone wants to PM me for my RL name and befriend me, I will happily supply it to anyone whose MN name I recognise.....

Nerf · 04/01/2015 11:14

Sorry grays that wasn't to you directly, just an observation. I'm going to leave it now, no point repeating myself.

Tinkerball · 04/01/2015 11:14

But by purely "focusing" on the baby and his parents is not addressing the possible dodgy dealings of their friend is it?

GraysAnalogy · 04/01/2015 11:15

Of course they may not have bought stuff but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have money put aside to do so. I don't buy for one minute that they didn't do this before going on holiday.

As I said the couple isn't the issue, people have been quite clear pointing that out.

It's all twisted because Richard refuses to clarify anything and gives abuse to those who ask for it.

Bowlersarm · 04/01/2015 11:15

I can't believe that people are actually able to publicly beg for money they don't seem to need. There's a lot of hearsay and rumours but if the crux of the matter is that people are being urged to donate to a cause already financially covered, then it just means it's a giant scam. And wrong.

Justinefrischmann · 04/01/2015 11:16

Rebecca/MNHQ the point is that the first two threads - which you deleted in their entirety- included much more than a couple of silly, shallow comments about the parents' appearances or whatever. The vast majority of commenters were interested in a debate and in taking a critical approach, which I for one think is commendable. Give your members some credit. Blanket censorship of dissent makes me very uncomfortable.

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