To ask if anyone is setting up a fb page to discuss Tricky Dicky?

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It seems we are not allowed to speak about anything negative elsewhere. Please do not speak badly of Tricky Dicky and co.

Alpaca you have quoted out of context and I agree with littleteapots

middnightscribbler thank you so much for that!

Have been toying with the idea of crowdfunding something, not liking the potential for the media going awry. I would much, much prefer it if it were able to be dealt with through a charity, if that is possible. I will investigate :)

X posted sorry nerf

Nerf I completely understand where you're coming from and whether they're 'deserving' or not hasn't been an issue for me.

No, me neither.

And I don't agree with demands that they should sell their cars either.

I'll be honest, I don't feel any need to "focus my energy" on supporting the parents. Why would I? I don't know them from a bar of soap.
The story here is that a lot of money is being raised under some very dubious pretext to funderstand a couple who appear to me to have no pressing financial need and substantial personal assets.
Add to that, the dodgy fundraiser is an unpleasant racist.

*fund not funderstand.

Why not? (Genuine question I am not trying to be confrontational)

Alpaca you have quoted out of context and I agree with littleteapots

I agree with other parts of the post, just not calling the parents feckless idiots personally, I don't think that's fair.

Alpaca that's hardly in context. But feel free to misquote me if that helps your argument

Graysanalogy yes that's my thinking. You would (if you could afford to) have the money set aside or whatever by 29 weeks. It's understandable that many people might not due to financial constraints be able to afford to do so. However those people are unlikely to be taking expensive holidays to NY a matter of weeks before the baby was due.

You asking me anon?

I think that when rebecca refers to personal attacks, she is referring not only to those against the parents (of which there were very few) but those attacking dicky (of which there were rather more). Hence why the threads have gone, not just the posts??

Agree, Bowlersarm. Something fishy about this.

I only glanced at the FB page - but there's something very aggressively "give us your cash" about it- not practical help or support, not baby things - no thanks - just cash please. And it did start out as "couple stranded in NY with premature baby facing huge medical bills" fundraising.

When it transpired that the medical bills/accommodation/flights would be covered, he then (quite reasonably) offered to refund the donations to anyone wanting it/feeling misled. He then posted casually about "naming and shaming" any individuals who had asked for a refund

That, along with friends comments about how they "could do very well out of this" make the whole thing a bit

I would maybe donate if I knew the couple personally, or if they were really stranded in NY without insurance - but I don't really understand why people are still donating now.

littleteapots the last two threads were deleted because of personal attacks on the parents. I don't think calling them feckless idiots is going to help the cause of this thread.

I agree with parts of your post, just not calling them names.

I said the parents would be feckless idiots if they'd paid for a fancy trip to NY rather than buying essentials for their baby.

Apparently they can afford both. Which is great, good for them.

Although it does beg the question why they need money from the general public.

Yet another lovely offer has been made - this one of homemade food driven in from New Jersey from someone who regrets they cannot help financially.

It, like, all the many many other kind offers of goods and practical help, has been ignored so far.

Although it does beg the question why they need money from the general public.

Couldn't agree more.

Arsenic But someone who works for RMH has confirmed that they will be getting free meals... Makes you wonder why they would need money for living expenses in NY if their housing and food costs have been covered...

They've also got access to wifi and phones, so communication shouldn't be an expense either. I'm sure there are telephones at RMH, so local calls are not an issue. (Just to clarify, in the states, you pay a monthly fee for phone service, not by individual calls, so they are not going to be charged for local calls at all).

Quite. The odd 'thanks, what a lovely offer' on the FB page would be nice too.

He is screwing up both the basics and the manners spectacularly.

I have followed these threads and honestly feel that they are a bigger example of the standard MNHQ message of 'be cautious of donating time/money/emotional investment to people you've just met on the internet'.

I have nothing but good wishes for the family and hope Dax makes good progress but this man (who took it all upon himself to start fundraising apparently) hasn't just approached their local community for a whip round, but accepted and encouraged donations from people world wife who don't know him or them from Adam. All without offering a clear plan of what the money is intended for.

Given he employs them both I do wonder if they're behind him 100% or feel in a tough spot given he pretty much controls the whole family's livelihood. I feel quite sorry for them if he's as hard work as he comes across online and think there's probably a very delicate balance for them to find.

People can't just appeal for money randomly, there are ways to go about it and regulations to follow. For all he knows he could be fucking them up royally by giving them thousands and not registering it through a charity. Won't that count as income and have to be declared to HMRC? What about benefits etc when they get back?

It's just messy and poorly executed.

The point at which he was asked "isn't £6k for 3 months enough?" and replied "No" was quite telling.

I do think Richard started with good intentions but it has spiraled out of control. A better man would admit defeat, thank everyone for their support and bow out.

The whole thing, apart from skirting legality and morality, is so spectacularly graceless.

Given he employs them both I do wonder if they're behind him 100% or feel in a tough spot given he pretty much controls the whole family's livelihood. I feel quite sorry for them if he's as hard work as he comes across online and think there's probably a very delicate balance for them to find.

This point was raised on the other thread and I completely agree. (Although, Lee isn't employed by Richard, he is Self Employed but at Richards gym)

He also hasn't clarified what will happen to the money that is raised from Lee's clients who they have so kindly agreed to keep on. He has also said that Katie only gets SMP but he's her employer so it's his maternity policy which is making their situation more difficult.

Feeling increasingly uncomfortable about the TD fb page.
Was silently cheering Dave Samonsite for his sensible and polite posts on the fundraising page, and now he's on 'our' OPEN fb group making bloody vile statements about the parents appearance and intelligence.