To LOVE smokers

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Honestly, I love people who smoke. They tend to be way more interesting than non smokers.

I like the way smoking smells too.

Mmmm lovely fags.

I like 'passive smoking'. Some of my best memories as a child / teenager are hanging out with my parents' friends who smoked, standing out in the garden and learning about the mysteries of life. I often go out to stand with people who are smoking at parties etc.

My only experience actually smoking a cigarette involved me coughing for about half an hour after a single draw and the person who gave me the cigarette laughing for about the same length of time. I've tried a pipe a couple of times though and liked it, but it isn't quite as easy to look cool smoking a pipe when you aren't a man with a beard...

I think smoking is rank and utterly disgusting.

However, I judge people as individuals, not on whether they smoke or not.

Tillie you know what, I nursed my Dad through his death, so I know how you feel.
And I am not doing the " my nan smoked 100 a day and lived to be 97" thing.

I am just saying that we are humans, we are all flawed in different ways.
sometimes addiction gets us, sometimes cancer gets us even when we are blameless.

You can know smoking is bad for you and makes no logical sense, but still have fond memories of sitting at the bar of a posh hotel with the perfect dirty martini, taking the first burning sip, lighting up a Camel, pulling the sweet smoke into your lungs, and whoosh, blowing it out. indoors.
Some of us have done things that wernt always good for us. And sometimes that's what makes us who we are.

If my dads smoking just impacted on his life, grand.

It's impacting on my mum heading for a breakdown, their marriage, my marriage, myself, my brother, my uncle, my KIDS.....I could go on and on.

My mum smoked. She stopped. She was the one who started my dad smoking and she could kick it. I know all about addiction. There's also alcoholism in my family. I must have missed the addiction genes

I have hellish memories of being trapped in a car for an 8 hour trip to Wales with 2 smoking parents.

The only reason he doesn't smoke now is because he doesn't have enough breath to have a draw. With my dad there's the addiction issue and there's also the pig headed stubborn total twat issue.

I might actually kill him myself before his lungs give up on him.

Wonc your post at 06:20, is exactly what I think.

Oh Silk Cut how I miss thee. 8 years now.

I have been known to call a cab to go and buy me a fresh pack if a dinner party has over run.

even as a non smoker I used to choose to sit in the smokers' staffroom where I used to work ( over 10 year ago now ). The smoking room was fun and chatty and full of jokes and characters; the non-smokers room was like a church to daytime TV and people would "shh" you all the time while eating their fucking MullerRice

The thing I'd point out about people having/making their own choices well when I did bring it up my nana etc told me there wasn't the education in their day than there is now/has been in recent years.

Also smoking was seen as glamourous and luxury and my mum recalls being bought cigarettes (she didn't ask just bought for her) by her mum (my nana) and stepdad at age 15.

I don't give a shit about smokers now apart from in my face/near me as I get asthma.

:o

I have sympathy for those with family members who are sad about close ones dying of "smoking related illnesses"

but plenty of people die because of obesity, alcohol, being run over by cars etc etc and are not named and shamed as some kind of satan's spawn

the issue is the venom and piousness being spouted about FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS for having a habit that is a) none of your business and b) a habit that wont affect you

the whole "im dying of passive smoking because occasionally I walk past a smoker" thing is bollocks, and an entirely different issue to being brought up in a smoking household etc

but hey, haterz gonna hate

What about my brother who both him and his wife smoke?!

None of my business there yet he has chronic asthma almost died 3 x as a child and was in wards with old men with lung cancer one of whom jokingly told him "I'll haunt you if you smoke".

His wife doesn't support him much in giving up smoking either. But ah well it's their choice isn't it?!

Yep. It is.

I smoke. DP smokes. Mum smokes, dad smokes, sister smoked, grandma smokes, uncles & anties smoke, cousins smoke.
I think there's only about 4 people in my extended family that smoke!
Then in DP's family... Mum smokes, dad smokes, brothers all but one smoke, aunties/uncles smoke. grandparents don't but they did.
I absolutely love the smell, and the taste.
I love kissing DP when he's just had a cig. It tastes really nice :')
each to their own I suppose. I love my family of smokers.

I just laughed out loud at the OP

just been outside for a Silk Cut... lovely! my ecig lies forlornly on my desk, its just not the same.

Love the smoker not the smoke!

I used to have a link to a WHO document saying that there was no evidence of harm from breathing second hand smoke. It was guidelines for non-smoking 'enforcers' who were being sent around pubs, when the ban first came into force, to ensure that no one smoked. It gave them 'answers' to possible objections people might come out with.

Funnily enough, it was taken down soon after I found it. I actually linked to it on MN. Needless to say, when I went back to thread a year or so later, the link was no longer live. I should have pdf'd the document when I had it.

(And now the WHO have lied about the 'dangers' of vaping too, and are recommending that it too be banned. Are they worth the money spent on them?)

I think the 1998 WHO document is still around though I don't have a link this minute.
It found no evidence of damage due to growing up in a smoking household and borderline evidence for longer periods. A working life in smoky conditions or a lifetime being married to someone who smoked.

They made the report and everyone said "see, I told you just standing near a smoker poisons you" as though the report said that.

One of my favourite stories I got from MN was about a sealed parcel that was briefly in a van that someone had smoked in on a previous day before the parcel was in it.

The parcel was so contaminated that once unsealed the clothes inside reeked of smoke. It was so bad that after several goes through the washing machine the stench was still so unbearable they had to be taken to the dump.

Of course I believed every word of it. :)

Oh so do I. Those tales are not wildly exaggerated for effect whatsoever. After all, I can't believe anyone on here would make a a great big, self righteous fuss about nothing, just because they don't approve.

Leopard tried two bags/slow pouring this morning and I have to say that's the most satisfying cup of tea I've ever had grin
Lovely, isn't it, PrettyPictures? Although I'm sure someone will be along sooner or later to warn of the danger of tannins or something.

There's a delivery driver round here who smokes and you can smell it on the plastic wrapping the clothes, but not when you open them.

Yes, OP. I can imagine people who have endured major surgery because of their filthy habits must have some interesting tales to tell

Ifnot

sorry this really angers me... my mum and stepdad and I spent many years in hospital visiting/caring for my brother with asthma...

I KNOW it's his choice but if/when he gets lung cancer or whatever I won't be "I told you so" but I'd be tempted to say so...

the thing that gets me (I really shouldn't get annoyed) is his wife smokes and if she stopped, he would stop.

anyway rant over.

Super, why is it her responsibility? Why do you imagine she's any more able to stop than he is?

Jux and Back - is this the one? Abstract here, full paper here, WHO: 'Nothing to see here'

My father gave up smoking his pipe 11 years ago- with much difficulty I should add, having smoked for over 40 years. Fast forward to last February and he was diagnosed with lung cancer BUT a type not linked to smoking. He died in August but maintained for those months that he almost felt cheated as if he'd for one moment guessed he'd get lung cancer anyway he'd have not put himself through the torture of giving up... We were very lucky as he only suffered for 2 weeks as his deterioration was so sudden, but lung cancer comes in several forms and the consultant was very shocked to learn that dad had ever smoked as his lungs showed no evidence of it. Not sure what I'm trying to say but not all diagnoses are identikit, that's for sure.

Oh, I love fags too, but am considering trying to quit.

liftthatup

If anybody reading this thread is thinking of quitting - we now have a stop smoking section on MN. You'll get lots of non-judgmental support and encouragement, whatever method you choose. If anybody's thinking of using ecigs, there's a lot of expertise over there too.