AIBU to be very pleased that Sheffield Utd have recognised that the rapist Ched Evans is toxic

[WeirdCatLady]

Very good news.

Good to see some sense being shown (finally).

The rapist Ched Evans will not be signed by Sheffield United because of the 'toxic' reaction to their (stupid) plan.

Let them keep throwing their tainted money at this hopeless cause.

Sashh it was me asking about the texts. Thanks for explaining. Very interesting about the CCTV too

Paul Heaton didn't use his statement to properly condemn what Ched Evans did

I applaud him standing down as patron (belatedly) but he still feels CE should have a career in football, so all he is saying really is NIMBY

What would it take for one of these people with influence to step and say "Ched Evans is a convicted rapist, I abhor what he has done and he should never play professional footbal again"

Billy Bragg got it the nearest

step up

Statement on the Sheffield United Community Foundation website...

The Sheffield United Community Foundation is a charity which works in the areas of sport participation, education, health and social inclusion. Over the last eight years The Foundation has worked with tens of thousands of children and young people throughout the communities of Sheffield.

The Foundation is managed independently from Sheffield United Football Club and would like to reiterate that they have no involvement in any decisions made by the Football Club. The Foundation serves the community of Sheffield and, in particular, the many children engaged with the programmes they deliver.

The Foundation would like to thank trustees, partners, staff, patrons, volunteers and friends who continue to support in the aim of delivering programmes for the benefit of others. The Foundation would also like to thank the out-going patrons and acknowledge their decision.

It would be disappointing if the very successful work The Foundation delivers is hampered by a decision they have had no involvement or influence in.

Beyond this statement, the Foundation has nothing to add.

Indeed, it is all about the football club. No mention of the appalling treatment of the victim.

I actually think their hands are tied to done extent as to how far they can go. What they've not said and their wording is quite interesting. They've still distanced themselves from the club and the clubs decisions.
I'd rather see a useful charity not say all it would wish than lose a lot of its funding. Though obviously if they were supporting the club and the rapist Ched Evans that would be a completely different matter.

They should be doing it from the point of view of what is morally responsible. He is a rapist. He has not denied what he did, or that the woman was totally incapacitated by alcohol. He just does not agree that it was rape.
I am appalled by Sheffield United and the stance they have taken. It is a privilage to be a professional footballer. They earn a fortune and are her-worshipped as idols by young people, particularly young boys and young men. They should be the most outstanding role. models not men who sexually assault and rape women. That he has not apologised is trivial in comparison to the size of his crime against his victim. Sheffield United should have taken a stand on values and refused to have any.more to do with him.

The fact that they are only doing this because of public reaction suggests they actually think it is OK to re-sign him but are not prepared to lose money so have changed their minds.

I find this typical of how the behaviour of these ridiculously paid poor specimens of humanity is regarded by their clubs. Another example is the new England Captain Wayne Rooney- sleeping with prostitutes while his wfe was pregnant and now England Captain.

So what is in it for the shit hot barrister then? If there are not really convincing grounds to appeal, why would such a top notch barrister want to be associated with this case? Surely it cannot be good for their reputation to be involved in this case if there is little chance they will win?

Fucking hell. It's almost as if you're guilty if you go out armed with a vagina.

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Money?

Also people are entitled to legal representation.

I heard the solicitor who represented on of James Bulger's killers. You can imagine how popular that was in Liverpool, but he went on TV and said no matter what the crime anyone and everyone has the right to legal representation.

You have probably guessed that I am not an Evans fan, but he is entitled to representation under the law.

"I find this typical of how the behaviour of these ridiculously paid poor specimens of humanity is regarded by their clubs. Another example is the new England Captain Wayne Rooney- sleeping with prostitutes while his wfe was pregnant and now England Captain." R

Really, all footballers do this and footballers are the only men who do it?

Why does everyone think he'll be rich if he gets back to football? 3rd division footballers are on a (fairly) ordinary salary and they only do it until they're 34ish - if they last that long. CE was never going to be making a fortune from commentating or sponsorship deals even before we all knew what scum he was - he was never that good a footballer. (which he may consider is a worse insult than being a rapist)

In July 2013 it was reported that The Blades' total wages budget (now they're in league one) was £2m pa. They probably have 25 squad players. There will be two or three "stars" getting a lot more than the others, the others have normal(ish) salaries. In L1 they are one of the wealthier clubs.

Anyone stupid enough to sign CE really won't have to pay him very much - he'll have to accept what he can get.

Some footballers of his age and talent will do well, the ones who see early on that it's not going to last forever and make sensible investments and career plans - CE is very unlikely to be one of them IMO. Yes well off at 26, if he's spending it all, not so much if he's putting it away for the future ivo the fact that he only has a few playing years left.

I agree re fitness. I'd be amazed if he ever gets back to a proper league standard anyway, even if someone will have him.

Interesting thought - do you have to pass a DBS check to get your coaching badges? I did for athletics, even though I'm not qualified to coach children.

Yes, you need DBS for coaching.

Just a point on DBS, it means just that, a check on whether you have a criminal record and whether you are barred from working with certain groups.

It is up to the employer whether they employ you with a previous conviction (apart from convictions that automatically bar you).

I've taught students who had convictions who couldn't do work placement outside the college (and not in the college nursery) because of a criminal record. Whether they should be on the course is another matter.

Having said all that I don't know whether any employer would take on someone with a rape conviction, particularly if they are still publicly saying, 'I did it, but I don't think it's rape'

I don't know about football sashh but for athletics I couldn't complete my coaching qualification without passing the DBS check - nothing to do with an employer, I just wouldn't have had the certificate, so wouldn't have been able to apply in the first place.

You can't coach in the Football League unless you have certain coaching certificates, so they couldn't make an exception and take someone who can't get qualified.

He was on £20k per week for one season (I believe) and generally considered to be overpaid - if you want a laugh have a look at what SUFC said on their forums, before they knew he was a rapist. They really didn't rate him as a footballer.

As the whole wages bill at SU is now supposed to be about £2m pa, they're not employing anyone on £20k per week, least of all someone who hasn't kicked a ball in 2 years or so.

I don't understand why players' contracts aren't written so they're automatically cancelled if they're in jail.

I'm not impressed by Paul Heaton's statement. He's basically saying that Sheffield United should steer clear of the controversy, but it's fine for Ched Evans to go and be set up as a role model at some other club.

Quite poor I think.