... to ask if MN has a grumpy 'old' women topic?

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I know there is pedants corner but I was wondering if there was anywhere where like minded people who want to complain about words like amazeballs, and other grumpy things can go and be grumpy without being told to get a life?

just found this. I am definitely in!
I echo the idea that of course I m always right and everyone else just doesn't get it.

I'm in too. Especially after that bloody upcycling thread where all the 'reasonable' people piled in and defended the word.

Oh yes!

And another thing - great title.

Another good thing about a "And another thing..." topic would be that it may nicen the tone of AIBU as all the prickly, snarly people (self included) decamp to the new grumpy one.

Exactly, it's 'I'm being reasonable, everyone else is wrong'.

I agree with everything - except people who disagree with me.

So, MNHQ can we have a kitten mum? can we have a new topic?

Oh I like this idea. Would it be like ye olde mumsnet then?

If 'And another thing...' was a person would it be Mary Berry? Or a drunk Delia Smith?

I love it, i really do.

Buuut (sorry, theres a but...) it reminds me of the "yes i am being unreasonable threads", was a great idea for most people, but someone comes along expecting their 'right to free speech' and starts being hugely offensive and breaking guidelines. I'm worried that all the reasonable people moaning about their office politics and MILs would get lumped in with the twats whinging about gypsies and disabled people getting free stuff (kind of like AIBU is at the moment - "oh, anyone who posts in aibu is an arse")

(And whereas aibu invites the challenge of people who are being twats, they might think they have the right to share their arseish opinion without challenge if that is the point of the section)

Very true Beyond, we wouldn't want it to become an extension of the Daily Mail.

can i join in.

my vote goes for Grumpy Corner though, i think 'and another thing' might midlead people to its true purpose.

this morning i'm being grumpy about the fact dds trainers have gone missing at school!!

what beyond said, basically.

i think calling it grumpy corner should let people know its not a place to rant about contentious politicals/religion/social order.

THIS would be like Mumsnet of old :)

Though, I have to say, it doesn't need to be GRUMPY, so could we stay away from it being a negative place?

A thread could just as easily be 'I love up cycling' couldn't it?

It's about being continually challenged about something harmless, that you feel that is draining and crap, not needing a space to be grumpy?

How about 'Ye Old Mumsnet' ?

so could we stay away from it being a negative place?

A thread could just as easily be 'I love up cycling' couldn't it?

you know, as much as I wish it wasn't, I think that's impossible on here. The up-cycling thing, while containing some colourful language, I didn't think it was negative. I thought it was hilarious. It was taking the piss out of pretentious people and the pretentious way they talk. On a place the size of mumsnet you're going to have people who genuinely use this twat-speak, and think it makes them sound really cool. So they don't get the joke. They take offense. Then they start to quote the Oxford dictionary at us and show us how their words are better/more concise/more accurate. And then it's just a matter of time before you get the

you need to get a life
you need to get out more
if you think that's funny you you really are
a psychopath/have narcissistic personality disorder/lack empathy

summed in fewer words: as soon as piss taking happens, someone is gonna get the hump

i think calling it grumpy corner should let people know its not a place to rant about contentious politicals/religion/social order.

Ah, but where would you draw the line? One of my pet grumps (they run to tens of thousands, by the way) is being accosted by cheery strangers in the street for any reason. So it would be OK to grump here about the Bright Young Things who want me to sign up to donate to their charity, but not OK to grump about the Jehovah's witnesses who want me to take their leaflet, or about the activists who want me to sign their anti-fracking petition?

Lemon. I would hope that if we had an 'agree with me' corner, that people could post accordingly. I mean, they manage it on other boards. No one goes onto the baby name threads and starts posting about cars. So if you post in 'agree with me' then you accept that you agree or --fuck off- start your own thread.

Maybe 'like minded corner' ?

...and no, politics, religion etc shouldn't be ruled out. You can be like minded without breaking the talk guidelines and not everything has to be challenged.

Chipping, "the agree with me or fuck off" corner. I love the sound of it. Would be happy to keep the fuck away from threads I don't agree with, but I still think you'll get someone who will pop in, initially being friendly enough with something along the lines of "oh I see your point but did you realise xyz disagrees with you" and you say "yes I know but i couldn't give a fuck" then you get the "well I was only try to politely point out to you the error in your thinking". At that stage you're about 5 posts removed from "you need to get out more".

I hope I am wrong, because I want somewhere to call twattery at will.

Politics etc can be ignored if noone agrees. But do you think on a parenting site things like "breastfeeders whopping their tits out get on my nerves" or "pnd is a load of made up drama" (neither are my opinions! But i have seen both stand on a debate style thread) could go unchallenged? They dont break any rules except for the ever so vague "not conductive to the site" one.

And if the trolls dont love aibu enough, what do you think they would make of an area where, regardless of what crap they spout, people arent allowed to disagree?

I'm torn. I do really think its a good idea, even if all i'm doing is being negative!

I do agree Beyond - it could blow up in our faces and become a haven for people wanting to spout far right nonsense.

I really want a grumpy corner!

Almost the whole of MN is filled with grumpy women. We need a "something wonderful happened to me " corner.

I must admit I never even thought of the possibility it could be used for truly obnoxious opinions (like anti BF in public) and it would just give those idiots a legitimate platform to spout hatred. Love the idea of an area where I can happily take the piss out of the pretentious re-purposers, up-cyclers, sourcers and foragers, but not so delighted about the risks Beyond has pointed out.

Anyone for a brainstorm session with some blue-sky out of the box thinking?

if so, line up against the wall and I will shoot you all right now

I'm sitting waiting for you in the break out area .