AIBU to wonder why the feck teacher training days can't be delivered in the holidays.

[Billynomates71]

Anyone?

Ah, do you know what OP? It's half term next week, so I don't give a flying fuck about your goady thread. I shall be drinking wine in my PJ's. Enjoy counting the aspirins.

So our kids secondary school have an inset day thus coming Friday, tacked onto half term next week. A whole week of no contact time.

Why can't that day be done next week, on Monday? Honestly why? Please don't tell me that there is no time, that all the teachers at our kids school are already fully committed for the whole week with marking and planning, because i know that us not the case.

And I do wish you would stop all stating that I am stupid, and a 'thicko' ands 'goady' simply because I don't hold the same opinion as you. Surely that would make you the ignorant ones, unable to respect another's opinion or engage in a debate unless that opinion concurs with your own? Dear god. And you are educating the countries children?

Because they are the best shopping, theme park doing something with your DCs in the whole year.

You can actually move because every other fucking DC in the country isn't on holiday.

I love them.

My mum was a teacher and spent alot of the so called holiday in in school sorted for next term. I wont tell you about how late she worked at night marking etc. no way would my sister and i teach!

Because Monday is part of the teachers' holiday

What part of that do you fail to understand?

OP- did you fail to get into teacher training or something??

Hang on a sec - so OP claims to be confused as to whether teachers work full time or not?? She says she couldn't do the job as it wouldn't be challenging enough and she'd be bored??

Surely I'm not the only on who thinks this is a deliberate wind-up??

I don't constantly bang on about how hard my life is

You started this thread.... you posted goody, totally uninformed comments and are now complaining about the responses? You asked questions, answered them yourself and became angry all over again.

Have you had an absence request turned down by any chance?

"If inset days were all in one block, co-ordinated with other local schools or tagged on to a regular holiday, in my humble opinion it would all be infinitely easier to manage for parents and childcare providers."

Well, hang around these boards much longer and you'll meet a whole bunch of parents who disagree with you, and prefer them during term-time. Lots of schools try to do a mix, but at the end of the day, sometimes there's little choice.

And I'll repeat, most teachers are parents too, and have to juggle their own kids' INSET days too.

Carlywurly, see, put in a sensible, non-goady way like that, I totally get where you're coming from. I appreciate that with little notice and a full time job things like this aren't easy.

HOWEVER, OP is banging on about how good teachers have it, when the vast majority of us know this not to be true. She's bemoaned their pay, their holidays and their lack of work stress. what a twat

Have you tried speaking to the school for the following year and explaining your situation? I do think it would be fair for them to give you a little more notice, wherever possible.

Mmm. Bloody teachers.

Doing, like, training so they can teach the nation's DCs better. Damn them all and their professional development.

Nice kittens tho.

If the INSET day was on the Monday of the holiday, your kids would still be off on the Friday because if the teachers did the INSET on the Monday of the holiday and taught your kids on the Friday, your kids would have 191 days of school which is too many.

Ask the education authority! They set the term dates here, so they decided term finishes on Thursday. It wasn't the school's decision, it was the LA's. So we are having Friday as an INSET day. If the education authority had set the term dates differently, we wouldn't be!

FWIW I will have to find childcare on Friday as DS's school is closed for training. I can't take the day off because, as a teacher, I have no option on when I take my holidays.

I'm sure the teachers at his school don't really need training in the new curriculum or child protection.... Probably they all just need a rest as it parents evening for them this week- they will have put in two 12 hour days his week- before the marking and planning.

I used to love it when kids were off on their jollies actually. Surprised you have time to take your kids on holidays, how hard you work anyway. Div.

Bet your kids are delightful to teach.

If the school changed the date of an INSET day last-minute, then it will have been unavoidable. They don't do these things just to piss parents off you know, despite what posters like billy seem to think.

Wind up. No one is this much of an git.

While teachers do get longer "holidays" some of these are planning and prep, teachers go in early to sort the school put and they have no choice about when they take their holidays - IMO I would expect longer hols if I had to take them at set times, it really eats in to your freedom!

www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching

Oooop. *a git

Why can't that day be done next week, on Monday?

Because Monday is the teachers' holiday. How does this not make sense to you? The next time you have annual leave booked, would you be impressed if someone came on MN and said you had to go on a training course in the middle of it?

How much holiday you have and how much holiday teachers have is completely irrelevant. You chose your job and benefits. Teachers chose their jobs and benefits. Each to their own... Live and let live...

Listen you really aren't getting it.

Teachers are paid for 195 days a year. 190 of which are contact days with pupils. The remaining 5 were taken from teachers' holidays in 1988 and allocated as Baker/teacher training/INSET days.

It wouldn't matter if they had the a INSET day on the Monday instead of the Friday, at some point in the school year there would still need to be 5 days where your child isn't at school but the teachers are.

Does that make sense now?

Be pleased your school has added one of their days to half-term. My daughter's old school sometimes had a random Thursday off instead.

Dear god. And you are educating the countries children?

Yes.... and also trying to deal with the ever increasing fall out from truly appalling parenting amongst other things.

The reason, Billy, is because of threads like yours.

When was the last time you read a similar thread about people who work in pharmaceuticals?

That's right, never. Teachers are defending themselves.