AIBU to wonder why the feck teacher training days can't be delivered in the holidays.

[Billynomates71]

Anyone?

you got your answer so you upped the goady levels ...well done - your name suits you :)

Well Billy, nothing to stop you training as a teacher, securing a job and enjoying all the benefits.

I don't actually see any teachers moaning here, they are just answering your question. The only winging is you complaining about INSET days

My mum & my DH are both teachers. They are both frustrated at INSET days disrupting learning & they both think teachers should have all these days either the week after schools have broken up or the week before they go back. They are both more than happy to cope with a weeks less holiday for the added convenience for children & their parents the the benefit of not disrupting term time with odd days (and possibly they think many INSET days are a bit of a waste of time....).

But nobody would have read it Goofy. They are all too busy marking, planning, completing reports, writing new schemes of work, preparing for no notice OFSTED, preparing for parent evenings and sorting out interventions to ensure C grade students all get the A* grades they are clearly capable of!

because they are only paid for 195 days ...they kids are in for 190 days ...the pay is over 12 months

if you want teachers to have less holidays you will have to pay them more

Inkanta Do you know any teachers?

They don't if they are in on training days and the kids aren't. It's also hard to teach if there are no children there in the class

Ummmm. I don't have a problem with teacher training days, but just for the record, I don't get paid for training days, and in fact, I pay to attend them - I'm a GP. So yes, I would happily give up my own time for training days, I'd be thrilled if I didn't have to pay for the costs of training too.

ignore my last post - kittens distracting my brain here -

OK, put it this way, teachers are paid for 195 days per year, but that salary is spread out over twelve months.

Hth

'because they are only paid for 195 days ...they kids are in for 190 days ...the pay is over 12 months'

Thanks ghosty.

Teachers are contracted to work 1265 hours over 195 days plus "any additional hours as required to fulfil their professional duties" so basically how long is a piece of string!! The 1265 hours just about covers lessons, after school clubs and parents evenings, everything else ( ie lesson planning, marking, assessments, form filling, policy writing, school plays, performances, attendance at PTFA events, ) is in addition to this. The 195 days covers 190 days of "contact time" when the children are in school and 5 days of training when they are not. Previously children were in school 190 days and INSET was non existant.

Career options are open to us all. You are very welcome to join us in teaching if you want. We all have a choice, why should we justify ours?

did I mention I have kittens

It's a piece of piss job, seriously you should join us, they are always crying out for new teachers because for some really weird reason around half leave in the first 5 years

www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching

or

You can stop being deliberately goady and actually look into the history of INSET (or Baker as they used to be called) days and how they came into being.

HTH

They are FFS.

existent red pen

Wolfie I was being sarcastic, although you are right!

You spend your childhood longing for the holidays, snow and inset days, wishing they were longer because they are awesome.
Then you grow up, have children and start complaining about the bloody school holidays, snow days and inset days.

Our school they are on the school website. The first week letters were sent out with all key dates. These dates are also on the front of the home school books, and even on pages within the book. Then there's the twitter and facebook page where these dates are published. Did I also mention the emails that went out back in September.. Have had 2 irate parents today. Why did no-one tell us? It's so bloody outrageous that we have had no notice. I have a life you know. Cannot just drop everything with a few days notice...

Go on Ghosty, show us your kittens

Billy. .,I work in a school as a TA. I have to go in on teacher training days too. And likewise if my son is off I also have to arrange childcare.. I agree it's a pain but it can't be solved by just doing it in the holidays.

bloody Spot on

they are currently hiding under the sofa