AIBU to wonder why the feck teacher training days can't be delivered in the holidays.

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Anyone?

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DH is a teacher and he is pretty much working 7 days per week during the school year along with most of the half terms and 2/3 weeks of the summer holidays - his first few years were hellish and he almost quit which would be a shame as he is actually quite brilliant (according to a number of students I have met over the years). I work full time in a management role, have a longer commute and am studying part time and I still have more free time than him. Oh yes, and any holiday we take is at the most expensive time of year.

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tbh do we NEED epipen training and CP training?

probably not.

As a teacher I find it a completely reasonable question. The kids can't mentally cope with more school time. But adults can. I love the holidays. I also love my job, but the holidays are a major bonus. I can't understand why they don't put training days in the holidays. My mum was a FT lecturer and had nearly "normal" holidays. She was expected to work during holidays.

BTW the tone here is really aggressive whenever anyone questions teachers and their working conditions. It's the same as most professions: good and bad. The only difference is that everyone has got an opinion on it.

lol at ENDLESS explanations of 190 days

i think we get it

My lovely DH is a teacher. He is still marking. He will be in work by 8am tomorrow, and home about 6pm. He goes into school almost every day during his holidays to organise paperwork/ plan lessons/ plan timetables (he is head if department). He has to miss sports days, school plays, parents evenings because he is making sure other peoples children's run smoothly. You couldn't pay me enough to teach...

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you need training at different times of the year. PLus ime most are at the end of a term or before a bank holiday.

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Oops, x post. Just saw your one about teaching not being challenging though and laughed. You're a funny one aren't you?

Ok, so you don't want to teach. Fine. We do. And we get a lot of holiday. Meh.

but I do think teachers bemoan their lot, without having a fucking clue what real life working is about
Your arrogance is simply mind numbing. That is quite an assumption.

Why do people always assume that "teachers" and "parents" are mutually exclusive groups? And why is teaching "not the real world"?

As others have said. Children are only entitled to 190 days teaching per year. Your child is not losing out on a days teaching.
I would imagine your child's teachers will be using the training day to plan and organise the next terms curriculum (you know, so they can teach your child), learning about assessment (so they can test your child) or learning about new ways of improving your child's education ( so they can teach your child better). Still think me don't need them? Or that teachers shouldn't have them? Or they should be done in the summer holidays? ( planning the spring term 5 months in advance in August before you have met hour class makes no sense!)

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Whilst I understand the pedantics of how teachers are paid/contracted (as has been explained a number of times on this post). I think what most people are baffled by is the amount of actual holidays they get in a year compared to most.
There is no getting away from the fact that they get a lot of holidays in comparison to other professionals on a similar wage. They may work a long week but they always have a break to look forward too in the not too distant future.
Seriously, surely teachers can see that 13 weeks in comparison to the 4/5/6 weeks that most people get is a bit of a difference and can see why it might annoy some people when even then training days are thrown into the mix. When you haven't had a single day off in months and ran out of holidays ages ago, when you are having to take unpaid leave because your child is sick again, it can be annoying when your facebook feed is full of "woohoo half term is here," or "SIX WEEKS OFF WOOP WOOP."
Maybe if teachers admitted once in a while that actually they have it good in a lot of ways people might be more sympathetic to their - and I do sympathize with a lot of their issues - cause.

And for the record I do have a lot of teacher friends. Some do put in the hours, but a lot seriously don't - at least not on the level the media would have you believe.

I am in awe teachers. I think you are all amazing.

I couldn't do the job you do - I would burn out in a year.

Thank you all

I worked "in real life" for 20 years before becoming a teacher so I have an inkling of what it might be like!

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The terms and conditions are fantastic.....and manyof us thought that through when we CHOSE to be a teacher. Thwechoice is there. No I wouldn't like to lose my holidays as I saw them as a perk that helped balance the all consuming business/stress/shifting goalposts of the job.
Plus if it is so cushy why do we have trouble retaining ? Many schools struggle to get suitable, qualified teachers at all.

BTW the tone here is really aggressive whenever anyone questions teachers and their working conditions

But the OP hasn't has he/she?? She is whining on about INSET days

Maybe OP is having a moan because maybe she has found that sometimes, like round here the Inset days are taken in the middle of term instead of being a day tacked onto the beginning or end of the holidays. OR, like the secondary school last week, cancelled the Inset day last Friday and are now having it this Friday.

i got into law school - took one look at how that pans out with family life and trooped off to do a ( far more fun) PGCE

it was a conscious choice - I knew a family was my goal and didnt want to farm my kids out to endless ' clubs'

If it so great - all of you come on in. ( especially if you like teaching maths)

why is teaching not real life working? what could be more 'real life' than teaching the next generation, and dealing with the many backgrounds that these children come from - children living in abusive homes, in poverty, children with special needs. You haven't a clue.

As previous posters have said, if it's such a cushy number, why don't you train to be a teacher?

Teachers on average leave teaching in 8 years

That suggests that actually it is a bit tiring even with the holidays or the rewards just aren't great enough to stay

So if you pay for more days then I'd guess they'd just burn out quicker

We already have shortages in some subjects