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AIBU to wonder why the feck teacher training days can't be delivered in the holidays.

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Billynomates71 · 20/10/2014 20:06

Anyone?

OP posts:
MrsItsNoworNotatAll1 · 20/10/2014 21:53

I realised their job wasn't a walk in the park when I had kids of my own and sent them to school. Their workload is scary. Was a real eyeopener.

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 21:53

www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 20/10/2014 21:54

I don't understand why teachers get a ft salary £22-27k (starting), but are only contracted for 190 days a year. It just doesn't make sense to me.

It doesn't matter if it makes sense to you or not. We do.

honeysucklejasmine · 20/10/2014 21:55

Good fun had by all! Wink

BrockAuLit · 20/10/2014 21:56

I don't live in the UK so no skin in this game, but it seems there might be a point here.

Children - 190 days of teaching

Teachers - 195 days of work.

Why can't those extra 5 days be done during the children's holidays? Basically, teachers have to do (say) an extra day's work after the end of each term, or an extra week's work at the end of the school year. If teachers are paid taking into account they have 65 days of holiday, and those holidays must be taken outside term time, then isn't it a total no-brainer to tack these five days onto the end of term? Basically, this is a scheduling thing?

What am I missing?

CrumpleHornedSnorkack · 20/10/2014 21:56

www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching

Stopmithering · 20/10/2014 21:57

Billy's gone, I think.
Unless he/ she secretly sneaks back in the vain hope that someone might agree with him / her.
Problem us, Billy, if you do come back, I think teachers are fed up with being randomly bashed about how 'easy' that have it, especially as few other professions seem to attract so much (ignorant) criticism.

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 21:58

anyone

AIBU to wonder why the feck teacher training days can't be delivered in the holidays.
ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 21:58

opps post fail Grin

aJumpedUpPantryBoy · 20/10/2014 21:59

Brock lots of INSET is carried out by external providers - the days need to be booked when they are available.

Also, having it in a block means you cant develop and return to an area of CPD throughout the year

Isthatwhatdemonsdo · 20/10/2014 21:59

I'm a TA in a primary school. Post's like yours wind me right up. Some of these inset days are for us TA'S to be first aid trained, just in case your child starts choking at lunchtime, or god forbid they need resuscitation. If the school didn't have these trained first aiders I'm sure you'd be the first to moan!

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 21:59

or not !!! hmmmm gin

YetAnotherHelenMumsnet · 20/10/2014 21:59

Okay, okay... it was just a few fuckoffs and a bit of goadiness (possibly an understatement).

Full marks to both ghosty and ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged for your naiceness, and hands up at the back if you recognise where Truth's name from. English lit teachers, eh, who'd be without 'em?

The OP promises that she has gone now, and I can't imagine that there's a person left on the internet who doesn't understand the salary structure, so is all well that ends well?

Littlefish · 20/10/2014 22:00

Brock - often, schools want to work with particular speakers who have limited availability, or need to do 3 days training on the same subject but spread out throughout the year so there is time to work on the skills inbetween the sessions, or work with other schools who have different speakers on the other training days.

It simply doesn't work for most schools to just lump all their training days together and tag them onto the beginning or end of a term.

clam · 20/10/2014 22:00

Well, how about reading the thread, BrockAuLit

Precis: some, possibly most, are tacked on to the end of a term. Those that are not are due to the availability of external trainers. And, of course, as many parents prefer random days throughout the year as those who want longer holidays.

Shit, just remembered I said I was going.

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 22:02

Polishes gold star oh and it's Jane Austin Pride and Prejudice isn't it? Grin

ThinkIveBeenHacked · 20/10/2014 22:03

Err... Austen

One house point deducted.

YetAnotherHelenMumsnet · 20/10/2014 22:04

Austin, ghosty? She wasn't related to the Six Million Dollar Man...

clam · 20/10/2014 22:04

WIBU to complain to the teacher yetanotherHelen that I never get gold stars and other posters always do. Are ghosty's and Atruth's mums on the PTA?

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 22:04

sorry Blush I'm not a fan - despite calling my DD Emma ! (I tell her it's from the book ...)

LaurieFairyCake · 20/10/2014 22:05

The reality is that teaching is a bit like flexi time with no choice in when you take your flexi

So actually they're working double hours or more in term time as that's when the children benefit from getting their marked work back/getting extra exam classes for gcse time.

And then they take their flexi in half terms/holidays

In the last 7 weeks my DH has worked every weekend marking and not had a full day off in 49 days - he really is due his week off next week

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 20/10/2014 22:05
ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 22:06

pmsl now see I had a Steve Austin doll - I can relate to that - I never went to a ball or had any unwanted suitors

Stopmithering · 20/10/2014 22:06

'It was just a few fuckoffs' Grin

ghostyslovesheep · 20/10/2014 22:06
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