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To be Worried About How Bad The Atmosphere In The Uk Will Be In The Event Of A No Vote?

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CalamityClara · 11/09/2014 12:33

The tension between the yes and no parties is awful. Campaigners from both sides are behaving in a very aggressive manner and I've even heard the odd report of people getting into physical altercations If the result of the referendum is no I fear Scotland is going to descend into chaos, things aren't just going to settle back down. How can we ever come back from this? I honestly fear there is going to be violence.

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WooWooOwl · 11/09/2014 12:35

YANBU.

Anti English bile in Scotland is already pretty bad, and it's only going to get worse. I think if there's a yes vote, the anti Scottish feeling (which I believe is tiny at the moment) in England will grow as well.

It's very sad either way.

CalamityClara · 11/09/2014 12:38

It's is indeed very sad. Things will never be the same again.

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rockybalboa · 11/09/2014 12:39

The Scottish people I know are concerned that it's going to horrific whatever the outcome as it is so close that pretty much 50% of the population are going to be very pissed off whatever the outcome. It's such a huge decision to have to make, I can't imagine having to weigh it all up and decide but 16 year olds have to. Scary stuff.

CinammonGirl · 11/09/2014 13:07

I'm so worried about this. I'm scottish, live in Scotland and will be voting no. I'm proud to be scottish but I'm also proud to be British. I've lost friendships over this referendum, it's divided everyone so much - people I considered to be good friends are spewing vitriol about no voters and how they cannot consider themselves "proud scots". I will be gutted if the yes vote wins and as rocky said, whatever the outcome, 50% of the population are going to be very pissed off. DH and I are supposed to have a night out next Friday night when the decision will be known and I honestly don't want to go as I fear there will be trouble. I find it heartbreaking what this is doing to my home country.

cherrybombxo · 11/09/2014 13:10

I've been saying all along that there will be massive fallout if it's a no vote. We've made such a big deal of it all, it'll be mortifying if it's a no vote! Think how smug David Cameron is going to be on the 19th if it's a no.

Sadly I do think it will be a no, though probably not by much.

BigBoobiedBertha · 11/09/2014 13:16

I am not sure that it will be as bad in the rest of the UK but in Scotland this will not end well. I can imagine this turning into another Northern Island actually.

I suppose Scotland had to have referendum at some point but surely this outcome was predictable? It might actually be better if there was a yes vote. Scotland could be left to get on with it and those who voted no who couldn't live with that could move south of the border. If there is a no vote there is nowhere for the yes voters to go.

ChampagneAndCrisps · 11/09/2014 13:17

I am worried too. I think we're currently in a lose lose situation. I am voting and I hope 'No' wins.

But either way, families and friends are on opposing sides now. There will be bitterness for a long time to come.

AbbieHoffmansAfro · 11/09/2014 13:24

I would be incredibly angry if, having gone to all the fuss and expense of having a democratic vote, people refused to accept the result. People seem to forget that the consistent feature of democracy is that up to 49.99% of the electorate will not get the outcome they want.

HamishBamish · 11/09/2014 13:27

I am praying for a 'No' vote. If it's a 'Yes' we won't be staying.

I'm also worried about what will happen on the 19th. The animosity surrounding the whole thing has really taken me by surprise. Given than around half the country will be disappointed whichever way it goes, doesn't bode well. I certainly won't be planning a night out on the town on the 19th, as I think a certain level of unrest is inevitable.

Hoppinggreen · 11/09/2014 13:28

If they vote yes then as far as I'm concerned I have no more to do with Scotland than I do with France or Italy and would see them in the same light- a near neighbour but a foreign country.
If they vote no and are given concessions as a " thank you" then I will be pretty pissed off about that.
I say of they want independence then fine but they should accept that they are on their own and we shouldn't give them any help at all after transition.
If they don't join the EU then they should get LESS help and cooperation from us than France or Italy would.

bensam · 11/09/2014 13:29

There was something about this on Radio 4 yesterday talking about the referendum in Quebec in 1995 and how terribly it divided people including families and friends.
None of this will end well whichever way it goes.....

poshme · 11/09/2014 13:29

A friend of mine who lived in Scotland for 10 years until recently said he thinks it'll be the next Northern Ireland. I do hope not. Hmm

OneNight · 11/09/2014 13:33

The fallout will probably last for many generations. Whatever the result, there will be a massive amount of work to be done by all parties to try to minimise the effects.

Meglet · 11/09/2014 13:36

Yanbu. The thought of another Northern Ireland has crossed my mind too.

indyandlara · 11/09/2014 13:37

The next Northern Ireland? Hardly. We have friends on both sides and at no point have we heard anyone suggesting we pick up guns and grenades to sort it out, no matter what happens. Think it'll be no but give it 5 years and there will be another referendum. Westminster won't let this go quietly and there will be consequences of their being a referendum in the first place. Pretty soon people will rethink their decisions.

UsedtobeFeckless · 11/09/2014 13:37

I'm worried too - I love Scotland ( We've got friends and family up there and have just got back from Glasgow ) and it's all got so fraught now that whatever happens next week half the country is going to be massively pissed off with the other half ... Sad

indyandlara · 11/09/2014 13:38

There even ??

cheersears · 11/09/2014 13:42

AbbieHoffmansAfro

I would be incredibly angry if, having gone to all the fuss and expense of having a democratic vote, people refused to accept the result. People seem to forget that the consistent feature of democracy is that up to 49.99% of the electorate will not get the outcome they want

So agree with this.

HiImBarryScott · 11/09/2014 13:43

I'm so hacked off that this referendum has even been allowed to take place. It would be different if there was a clear huge majority of people in Scotland who wanted independence, but there isn't. I cannot understand why the rest of the UK have not had a say in this.

I think there will be a lot of bad feeling no matter which way the vote goes. Any problems that arise will be cast up against the other side for decades to come. I don't think there is going to be a good outcome either way.

I'm Scottish by the way and live in Scotland.

Bambambini · 11/09/2014 13:43

I think the fall out will be worse in Scotland if it's a narrow Yes vote - I can't see nearly 50% being able to accept such major and uncertain change on a slim majority.

I also think a narrow No vote will mean that the Tories will be out for a bit of revenge and not be looking too favourably on Scotland. The English though maybe relieved will be pissed off as well.

londonrach · 11/09/2014 13:44

Yanbu. Can't believe how anti the english the Scottish seem to be.

treaclesoda · 11/09/2014 13:45

indyandlara, yes, that's the way everyone in Northern Ireland sorts things out, with guns and grenades Hmm

Bambambini · 11/09/2014 13:48

I think on the day the No vote might be bigger than people think - I hope so. I also think even some Yes voters will accept No easier and might even breath a sigh of relief. I wouldn't mind a Yes vote so much if it has a majority of about 70% - but a slim majority would be awful.

goodiegoodieyumyum · 11/09/2014 13:50

I am going to Scotland on the 19th Septwmber I am now worried there will be riots. Not living in the UK I didn't realise the referendum was the 18th, I just want to visit my uncle and aunt who both have terminal cancer. I am just hoping it wont be as bad I am iahining it will be.

goodiegoodieyumyum · 11/09/2014 13:51

Imagining

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