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To be very concerned that DD2 is now telling lies about me to her form Tutor.

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smokepole · 10/09/2014 16:28

I know it seems like every week, that DD2 is up to something than she apologizes and says sorry. However, I am very angry with her now , I got a phone call from DDs form tutor telling me that she seen DD2 and friend Julie working round the town 'drinking' beer from a can with some 'undesirable' non 'grammar school' boys (expect to get flamed for that) on Friday night. They were both supposed to have been in the Cinema . The form teacher approached them and asked them what was in the can ( butter would not melt in the mouth) DD said the can was empty and 'would not ever drink alcohol' 'Lovely to see you miss ' . The form tutor was having nothing of it so pulled them both Monday morning , Julie admitted to drinking beer, DD still denied she had drunk any Alcohol. DD then burst in to tears saying I am throwing her out after she has done her GCSEs because I am moving to Cheshire and that she is not allowed to come. DD asked her form teacher ' can I stay with you miss for sixth form'.

I told DD about two weeks ago that we were moving to Trafford in July after her GCSEs and DS school year ends, she fluctuates from being ok to swearing and slamming bedroom doors. The main reason I am going is for DD2 and DS , to give them a better chance, there really is nothing for them on the Kent coast. The thing is I keep 'grounding ' her and taking 10% of her allowance of her , she then returns to being the loving caring daughter I know she is.

The form tutor has given DD and Julie a detention, Julie for drinking, DD one for lying. DDs form teacher is very concerned about DDS behaviour and why she is acting like a year 7 ( incidentally she was so focused in year 7 overcoming her difficulties) she never behaved anything like this. This is the reason why her form tutor is very 'fond' of her. The form tutor told DD that year 11 is 'not the right time' for this behaviour.

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QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 19:10

I do think the reason people are reading this post is because of my bizarre writing style that is totally alien to University educated people, in particular they find my inconsistent and wrong use of comma's intriguing.

We don't have to be university educated to notice your punctuation.

Signed,
Queen Tilly
ex-PRU

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 19:14

Unexpected. Have you read my last three posts then, because there is only one quotation mark in the last three posts.

I have just been on the HMRC website , it is very complicated anything given over £6000 is liable for CGT except for Personal Cars , that is why people give Cars away. It is the easiest way round complicated rules and does not require that the giver lives 7 years to be tax free.

The reason you employ tax people is because it is very complicated and needs professional advice. I will give up and leave the planning to professional tax people.

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 19:17

Queen Tilly Did you work for the Prudential then , are they a good company to work for.?

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QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 19:19

No.
Try again.

Remember your sneer earlier?

GarlicSeptimus · 12/09/2014 19:22

I think I can answer the tax question. Brother is a car dealer? So he puts £30k (cash, therefore taxed) on a house for DN to live in while at uni, and pays the mortgage instalments (taxed.) When she leaves college, he disposes of the house as he wishes but he's promised DN the £30k. He gives her a flash car from stock - therefore, not yet taxed. This would potentially raise questions for HMRC as the vehicle still has to be accounted for by his business.

He can give away as much money as he likes, though. If he doesn't die within 7 years, neither he nor DN are liable for tax on gifted cash. I don't think there are any plans to introduce a 'gift tax' in the UK, outside of already existing inheritance & import laws.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 12/09/2014 19:28

What's wrong with the Kent coast? Envy

I live on the Kent Coast

Have only read page 1

Rollergirl1 · 12/09/2014 19:30

Gosh, I really don't know what to make of this thread. I hope it's a hoax to be honest. OP hasn't once displayed any emotion, affeection or empathy for any one of the people in her family that she has talked about. She talks about her DD associating with boys that are undesirable but doesn't actually seem to voice any feelings of concern for her emotional well-being.

I find the OP and her posts really unsettling and odd.

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 19:34

Peoples Republican Unit By any chance? Those Dedicated to remove the Monarchy from the United Kingdom.

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QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 19:36

Garlic Yeah, CGT is liable on a gift bought as trading stock (like a car dealer's stock), even to a spouse, so surely it's absolutely out of the question for a niece?

Smokepole stop messing about with these ideas of giving sellable assets as gifts. If it can appreciate (cars generally don't, which is why there's been an exemption made traditionally), CGT comes into play.

If it's cash, it doesn't appreciate.

Either your brother is an idiot, or he plans to give your daughter a car he can't sell at stock price that was nominally worth £30k on the forecourt, and then make you feel really grateful for it.

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 19:40

Rollergirl. Have you read all 9 pages!.

If you have come to that conclusion, you are completely wrong, read my post on the previous page about having a laugh about a serious issue. This is a forum where nobody knows you or what compassion or care you show your family.

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 19:41

My brother is not a Car Dealer...

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MrsDeVere · 12/09/2014 19:49

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Strokethefurrywall · 12/09/2014 19:55

Arf MrsDeVere

This thread is gold. I alternate between Hmm and Shock but mainly its just been Grin

Whereisegg · 12/09/2014 20:07

This is amazing GrinHmmConfused

GarlicSeptimus · 12/09/2014 20:13

If cars aren't your brother's stock in trade, how come he's made this convoluted plan entailing a £30k car? It no make sense! He should just give DD the dosh, or the house, or a trust fund - but a swanky car for a 22-year-old with few other assets is a bit Confused

GarlicSeptimus · 12/09/2014 20:14

... but I really want to hear more about it, as you can tell :)

QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 20:24

If he's not a car dealer, then wtf?

Is he planning to swan into a dealership and just waste £30,000 then?

It at least made some sense if he planned to give her an expensive car for her to sell on for more than the cost price he paid!

Hakluyt · 12/09/2014 20:26

And how about the pony? What will that be worth? I've got one for sale at the moment...........

QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 20:32

Can it be sold on as a tax dodge, Hakluyt?

QueenTilly · 12/09/2014 20:33

Accountancy seems fascinating all over again, now!
www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/vatmargmanual/vatmarg09000.htm

Philoslothy · 12/09/2014 20:43

This thread is great, I have actually turned off Corrie.

angryangryyoungwoman · 12/09/2014 20:49

I think the op is a computer, you know, like the ones that can play chess? This is a mumsnet thread programmed computer posting messages. Very clever, but you haven't fooled me!

Hakluyt · 12/09/2014 20:57

If I added it up, queentilly, it would represent a socking great loss- so probably, yes!

enriquetheringbearinglizard · 12/09/2014 21:14

I'm still stuck on wondering what is a 'modern' school?
Anyone?

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smokepole · 12/09/2014 21:15

He might actually get a discount on the car, if he buys three at the same time.

I am actually at my brothers house now having driven the drive from hell at 2AM this morning in a 1.6 Seat Ibiza 'Boring'. The kids are with their father because DD1 is of to University next week. It used to be so much fun driving up at 2AM when I was 22 in BMW M3s and big Mercedes , there were no speed cameras back then and traffic was lighter. That is of course before my parents business tanked ( that I ran) caused by the likes of 'Scum' I am trying to keep away from DD2.

You are right though about fast and expensive cars, being a waste , though good fun at the time. My parents indulged me with expensive Cars and Clothes much out of the guilt they had for sending me to La Manche for my education.

The problem was that pubs and Amusement Arcades became liabilities not assets. When finally my parents and I got out of the prison sentence that running their business had become , I managed to get a job working part-time for a friend that came to an end 6 months ago My job prospects In Kent are now £6-7 Per hour. I am left after what used to be a successful business with £250K equity in my house and a 2 year old Seat Ibiza but zero - little chance of meaningful employment.

Would you get the hell out of that place, or would you stay in all of your misery. Incidentally Dad won't have anything said about Kent or England, They have enough money to live in Spain , Italy or any of the nice places in Cornwall or Devon, but no dad still wants to live in Shepway he still talks with nostalgia about Hop Picking in paddock wood as a young boy. He still has this Darling Buds of May Fantasy about Kent and the 1950s /60s.

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