To be very concerned that DD2 is now telling lies about me to her form Tutor.

[smokepole]

I know it seems like every week, that DD2 is up to something than she apologizes and says sorry. However, I am very angry with her now , I got a phone call from DDs form tutor telling me that she seen DD2 and friend Julie working round the town 'drinking' beer from a can with some 'undesirable' non 'grammar school' boys (expect to get flamed for that) on Friday night. They were both supposed to have been in the Cinema . The form teacher approached them and asked them what was in the can ( butter would not melt in the mouth) DD said the can was empty and 'would not ever drink alcohol' 'Lovely to see you miss ' . The form tutor was having nothing of it so pulled them both Monday morning , Julie admitted to drinking beer, DD still denied she had drunk any Alcohol. DD then burst in to tears saying I am throwing her out after she has done her GCSEs because I am moving to Cheshire and that she is not allowed to come. DD asked her form teacher ' can I stay with you miss for sixth form'.

I told DD about two weeks ago that we were moving to Trafford in July after her GCSEs and DS school year ends, she fluctuates from being ok to swearing and slamming bedroom doors. The main reason I am going is for DD2 and DS , to give them a better chance, there really is nothing for them on the Kent coast. The thing is I keep 'grounding ' her and taking 10% of her allowance of her , she then returns to being the loving caring daughter I know she is.

The form tutor has given DD and Julie a detention, Julie for drinking, DD one for lying. DDs form teacher is very concerned about DDS behaviour and why she is acting like a year 7 ( incidentally she was so focused in year 7 overcoming her difficulties) she never behaved anything like this. This is the reason why her form tutor is very 'fond' of her. The form tutor told DD that year 11 is 'not the right time' for this behaviour.

Hop Picking in paddock wood - Oooh, my dad used to do that as a child! My gran might even have been on this 1919 video.

Discount for a three car purchase?
It gets better and better. I'm sure you could persuade him to cough up for a better car for you as well.
And how did the scum you're trying to protect your daughter from cause your parents' business to fail?

Have you worked out what PRU stands for yet?

There is some news though, about Manchester Dogs home the fund has now topped £1 Million in just one day. The Culprit (if that is the word) is 14.

Harpurhey is a dangerous place, I nearly ran out of petrol there 16 years ago having got lost coming out of Central Manchester at 2.30 AM (No Sat Nav Then) The area is even worse now. Mandy. Moss Side , Whalley Range and Alexandra Park are much better than even 5 years ago .

Hakult asked about Chorlton .It is a very Metropolitan trendy Liberal sort of place ,though many parents lose their hatred of selective education and choose to send their offspring to Stretford or Urmston Grammar.

Ah - not grammar =scum now? Well, another dear departed poster once referred to them as "dregs". Another as "scrotes". So you're in good company............

"I have just been on the HMRC website , it is very complicated anything given over £6000 is liable for CGT"

No it isn't. Stop making shit up.

Is it near Hockley In Essex.

I so definitely win, apart from it wasn't 100 place names she had to get in the thread, it was 1000!

I mean, who in their right mind would even mention Paddock Wood!!

I think the people of 'dangerous' Harpurhey have more than proved their decency this past day, it's a deprived area yes, but the majority if people there are like anywhere else - just trying to get on with things, live their lives, raise their children.

I don't know what you're expecting from this move, but you're in for a rude awakening. Your dd will mix with who she wants to, grammar, comp or PRU. Get over it.

And the situation with your mega rich brother financing you? Despite what you say I'd love to hear his wife's opinion on it all.

Fighting , Mugging Customers ,attempted Arson, Armed Robbery and phone calls at three in the morning saying they know which schools the kids go to.
That is how they destroyed the business as well as us as people.

Not one single Arrest from the police . despite suffering from 12 serious incidents of crime ,hundreds of minor incidents, Having said that DD1 has her heart set on joining the Police after University specialising in forensics.

Abcdewrqrui. I am glad you are so much brighter than me and can understand what it says about CGT because different rules apply to different things and I need specialists to explain.

It's hardly difficult.

In order for CGT to be engaged, there has to be a CG to be T'd.

Other than in the case of exotic collectors' cars, cars depreciate.

Therefore, there is no CG.

And in any event, contrary to the nonsense you are spouting, there are essentially no circumstances in which a relative cannot write a cheque for thirty grand to another relative.

Again, stop making crap up about "it's OK for mortgage deposits" or "it's OK for university fees" and "you have to be careful".

If I give my nephew thirty grand for them to set up a crystal meth business or spend on hookers, there are still no tax implications. There may be tax that I have to pay in order to raise the thirty grand in the first place (like, as a wild example, income tax) but if there is thirty grand in my bank account and I write a cheque to a relative, there are no tax implications associated with that transfer other than it being a PET for the purposes of IHT were I to die.

I am Knackered now , having been up since 1.30 AM.

Ilovesooty. I do know what PRU means in this sense .

Anyone at any time can found themselves in positions or places that do not represent what they are as people or what they can offer due to things or circumstances going wrong. I suspect Queen Tilly found herself in such circumstances .

Fuck me all my siblings give me is soap on a rope and maybe a scented candle.

My lovely mil left me a nodding donkey from Spain ( not a real one) and fil a table from home base.

I tell you I am seriously pissed off at their lack of cars and ponies for my kids.

Bastards.

Thebody

Yes, I'd love to know the brother's wife's take on this.

PRU = Pupil Referral Unit

Lovesooty. Did you check what Hockley in Essex was on the internet.

Why should I? I'm somewhat confused.

I was being clever lovesooty. Sorry. Hockley was where the Uk's first secure Girls Borstal was built in 1962.

When I was asked what's a PRU I thought I would be clever...

There is a potential problem though. What financial benefit does DS get if he actually gets in to my first choice school ABGS for year 10. I am hopeful that DD2 who I want to start looking at AGGS website, will get in for sixth Form with her projected grades.

I have a saying about our families educations.

Me ,Brother and DD1 are Moderner's
Sister DD2, DS , Niece no1 Nephew No1 Grammarian's
Niece no2 Nephew 2 Toffs.

Sister and Nephew 1 though will become 'Academic Bores' when they go
to Oxford next year.

ABCDEFGRTY. I have not asked Sister her opinion on the gift, for obvious reasons her kids ain't getting any.

*This thread is gold. I alternate between and but mainly its just been

Yes. That's exactly it. I was really struggling to sum up what I wanted to say about this thread but it is so er….unique. but that sentence nails it.

Why on earth are we getting into so much detail about giving a girl an expensive car and the tax implications anyway? She's 15 FFS.

Oh Dear Don't drink, do pay attention.
The OP's eldest daughter is off to Leicester uni and will be in receipt of the car.
The middle daughter is 15 and will get a pony and the rest of the package.
Her son is 14 and will get...something of equal value I suppose.

The oldest daughter is getting a deposit on a house I think.
The middle daughter is getting a brand new car and a pony.
The son is getting his fees paid to a school to protect him from scum if he doesn't pass an entrance exam.

Smokepole and her cup runneth over.

Anyone want to buy a pony?

That teacher cares about a pupil in her school. What would it say about her if she ignored the situation? Sounds as if the move has really "got to her", poor kid has a lot going on at the moment and needs understanding and listening to. Hard on parent and child.