To be very concerned that DD2 is now telling lies about me to her form Tutor.

[smokepole]

I know it seems like every week, that DD2 is up to something than she apologizes and says sorry. However, I am very angry with her now , I got a phone call from DDs form tutor telling me that she seen DD2 and friend Julie working round the town 'drinking' beer from a can with some 'undesirable' non 'grammar school' boys (expect to get flamed for that) on Friday night. They were both supposed to have been in the Cinema . The form teacher approached them and asked them what was in the can ( butter would not melt in the mouth) DD said the can was empty and 'would not ever drink alcohol' 'Lovely to see you miss ' . The form tutor was having nothing of it so pulled them both Monday morning , Julie admitted to drinking beer, DD still denied she had drunk any Alcohol. DD then burst in to tears saying I am throwing her out after she has done her GCSEs because I am moving to Cheshire and that she is not allowed to come. DD asked her form teacher ' can I stay with you miss for sixth form'.

I told DD about two weeks ago that we were moving to Trafford in July after her GCSEs and DS school year ends, she fluctuates from being ok to swearing and slamming bedroom doors. The main reason I am going is for DD2 and DS , to give them a better chance, there really is nothing for them on the Kent coast. The thing is I keep 'grounding ' her and taking 10% of her allowance of her , she then returns to being the loving caring daughter I know she is.

The form tutor has given DD and Julie a detention, Julie for drinking, DD one for lying. DDs form teacher is very concerned about DDS behaviour and why she is acting like a year 7 ( incidentally she was so focused in year 7 overcoming her difficulties) she never behaved anything like this. This is the reason why her form tutor is very 'fond' of her. The form tutor told DD that year 11 is 'not the right time' for this behaviour.

Worth a shot- can't sell him anywhere else.........

But did the pony have a grammar school education, Hakluyt?

Smokepole and her cup runneth over.

LOLLLOOOLLLLL

Sadly not, Oxfordcomma. But he was backed and brought on by someone who has, if that helps.

I think the problem is that his ancestors come from the Dales. He's.......... ........Northern..................

Just woken up Still knackered , got the drive from hell tonight FUCK.....

Many people who go on about grammar schools, private schools and protecting their children from the proletariat, have never experienced
what the truth is. The difference is I know that most schools whether
selective or non selective , these days are able to provide an ample
education. I have stated on other threads how DD1s school enabled her to reach about 70% of her academic potential, the way the school were able to do that was by effectively segregating her and the other 20 or so higher ability pupils. They were the same kids in all the classes from year 7 onwards. The only times DD and her 'special set' ever came in to contact with the rest of the school was at assembly and in PE lessons .They even sat in their own group at lunch times. That is the only way a modern school can provide the appropriate education for even above average academic ability pupils.

Bad behaviour can occur anywhere, the school I want DS to go to had the 'pie boy' Jacob Dowdle incident . We discussed that at the time, I was perhaps guilty of playing down the incident because he was a grammar school boy. I admit that if it had occurred at another type of school, my first reaction would have been 'Scum', not my first reaction that it was a bit of fun gone wrong. The point is we choose the best possible schools for our children to help them achieve, also we want them to be with people who are similar in terms of backgrounds, aspirations , beliefs . This has got nothing to do with money, despite many posters on here stating it is about money and status.

The reason the thread has gone this way is because I have been asked questions which I have answered in a honest and slightly comical way. The original thread was about DD2 lying about me to her form teacher and the form teacher giving up her time to listen to DD2. The form teacher advised DD2 that she has so much to offer, why does she want to put all her efforts of the last 5 years ( overcoming Moderate Dyspraxia) and her ambitions at risk for socialising with boys who are not fit to tie her shoe laces in any form.

We discussed that at the time, I was perhaps guilty of playing down the incident because he was a grammar school boy. I admit that if it had occurred at another type of school, my first reaction would have been 'Scum', not my first reaction that it was a bit of fun gone wrong.

OMFG I cannot believe you just said that out loud. Well, you are honest, I'll give you that.

I remember another thread ages ago where a woman was ALARMINGLY lacking in any empathy or awareness of her children's needs rather than her own wants, and her DD who had gone off to uni suddenly developed a backbone and hated her fucking guts and refused to spend Christmas doing exactly what the OP wanted.

The OP just didn't get it AT ALL. Yet all the signs were there as clear as day.

I fear you may be in the same position in a few years time. You seem to have a breathtaking lack of awareness and sensitivity about some things. There's nothing wrong with wanting your children to do well, be safe, stay away from troublemakers etc., but you seem to be slightly unhinged in your approach to it all. I hope it doesn't backfire on you in spectacular fashion.

I don't believe any of this. Most of the stuff the OP is posting is utterly nonsensical and garbled and completely one track. A quick look at other threads appear to be more of the same. There is no genuine emotion in any of the posts. Just confused and contradictory ranting.

Mrs Devere. Do you mean my last post was more considered and less flammable in nature.

Rollergirl. You are entitled to your opinion as to whether I am Fake or not.
I don't know what you mean by showing emotion. Maybe you should have seen my emotion after I suffered an Armed Robbery, guess what I actually showed no emotion I was just glad it was over.

First of all do you realise if you put things like "boring" and "happily" in inverted commas they mean the exact opposite so as an example your "boring" drive was actually an exciting drive and your brother being "happily" married means that he isn't.

Secondly whilst everyone else is wondering if your brothers wife is ok with all this spending on his sisters children, has any one thought of what the brothers children think of this. I can see them turning out as spoilt brats as their father cannot refuse them anything as they obviously will expect more from their father than their cousins get.

Mandy. Maybe I am making grammatical mistakes, due to not knowing any better. Thanks for the Help.

My Niece no 2/ Nephew no 2 are fantastic and want to share their good fortune with my children ,who they dearly love (sisters children are a bit distant). My Niece is like a doll , she is fantastic funny and above all My favourite Niece she is able to take a joke (like when her dad and I started mocking her 'cut glass accent') much to the annoyance of her mum. Her response was to laugh and say I am Sorry I cant' help it. Niece always thinks first about her family and cousins than herself (though she did disappoint her dad, when she choose a southern boarding school instead of a northern one) . Nephew is exactly the same as his sister. There are no problems with the kids about sharing things.

I was being clever lovesooty. Sorry. Hockley was where the Uk's first secure Girls Borstal was built in 1962. When I was asked what's a PRU I thought I would be clever...

No, you thought you would attempt to sneer and insult some more at us poor souls who didn't do mainstream education.

^Sister and Nephew 1 though will become 'Academic Bores' when they go
to Oxford next year.^

What about Cambridge and Durham, then?

I am very Sorry Queen Tilly.

Sometimes my brain thinks quicker than my hands, I am at 1000 MPH all the time. I don't stop to think what I have either said or written. I am going to say this. MY GP strongly thinks I am Autistic , I am going to go for tests with specialists to diagnose my highly likely Autism ( probably ASD and Dyspraxia being the most likely). DD2 was diagnosed with Dyspraxia when she was 8.

This is probably the main reason why my posts can run away from each other, and descend in to random posts or rants. It is something I am going to need help with if I am going to be successful with my Open University studies. Sometimes the people who suffer most with problems, can often be the most un-forgiving or judgemental people .

Ah. Throwing in some extra info for the sympathy angle and a get out of jail free card now are we?

Classic move, smoke classic move.

Not aware of any special educational need that makes people describe those who don't go to grammar school as "scum"............Some specialist form of Tourette's, perhaps?

Ow. Ow. OW!

My face sprained my eyebrow!
Lots of people with autism at my PRU- don't recall anyone calling anyone else scum for their schools, present or current. Not even the ones who went on to be "academic bores" did. There was an ex-private school pupil, too. They didn't either.

Hakluyt Can you claim the pony went to Durham to raise the price?

Good plan, Smoke, you will need tools to help you focus :)

Hak, I'll buy your pony if he has a PHD.

Uh, I have friends who live in the Trafford borough - it is definitely Cheshire

Cambridge and Durham. Did you go to either Queen Tilly. I fluked my qualifications @ my Alma Mater 4 D grades in 1990. I was amazed and thrilled that I had achieved such high grades as I did not understand a thing on any of the papers.

I put the results down to my superior intelligence and the ability to think outside the box, when required to do so.

All Academics take note....

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No, I did not attend any university, as I have previously stated. I remain curious about your classification for Cambridge and Durham graduates. "Academic Pains"?