My friend kept dds money and used Tesco vouchers

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Hi, ds had inservice yesterday and a friend (a mum from school) offered to take her, her own dd and 2 others to an amusement park, entry fee was 25 pounds. When ds got back in the afternoon, we chatted about the day and it turns out the mum paid for my dd and the 2 other children with Tesco vouchers, ie, she had redeemed her Tesco points to pay for the 4 dcs and then kept 75 pounds form my dd and the 2 other dc. Surely she could have told us that this place took in Tesco vouchers and I could have used my own points and saved the money? I'm grateful that she took dd but surely she should have been upfront about her intention of using vouchers....AIBU?

But, still, the friend did take the child with her and that alone should be worth the bottle.

So DamnBamboo, if she got the tickets 2 for 1 you reckon it would still be OK to expect the OP to pay full price?

But didn't say if it was bought with tesco's vouchers...

OK. I'll address the ebay question.

There are two different possibilities. The first is that she bought the points/voucher off ebay for her own use at an amusement park or similar. She did not anticipate taking another child and if she hadn't taken another child she would have spent them at an amusement park. Then the cost of the points to her is £25 and she has done nothing wrong.

The second possibility is that she only bought the points/voucher because she knew she was taking a friend to the amusement park. She wouldn't have bought it otherwise as it would have been no use. Then the opportunity cost to her is whatever she paid in cash (less than £25 presumably) and yes, it is a bit naughty. Though probably not naughty enough to get worked up about in the circumstances!

But she didn't did she?

How many ludicrous variations and pseudo comparisons do people want to keep coming up with here?

Maligned friend wanted to save the benefits of her clubcard bonuses for herself and presumably her family. Nothing wrong with that! OP did now know about voucher use and so we have sour grapes.

That is the upshot!

Damn I think it's cheeky but I would have used my vouchers and not asked any money for the entrance fee so I don't think I'm in anyway less generous than the people who don't think it was cheeky.

It depends on what value you put on the tesco vouchers, I have to buy food, I chose to buy it in tesco therefore I get points. I see the vouchers as the value printed on them, if I can double up etc thats a bonus.

What'sthat I agree.

But charging full price for a two for one ticket means you would be getting them to subsidise you and this would be questionable! This is not what happened here. Maligned friend did not get anything more from OP than OP would have otherwise paid in these circumstances given that OP had no vouchers

And a two for one vouchers only works if there are two people, so hence not usable for just one person and the discount is for two people.

Another idiotic comparison.

She wouldn't have bought it otherwise as it would have been no use. Then the opportunity cost to her is whatever she paid in cash (less than £25 presumably) and yes, it is a bit naughty. Though probably not naughty enough to get worked up about in the circumstances

But this is not true for Tesco vouchers is it. You can use them in multiple places.

FWIW OP YADNBU.

You could have used your Tesco vouchers and save yourself £25. Instead, she used her tesco vouchers and made £75

Very bloody sneaky.

If I were you, Id call her and say "I didnt realise you could use tesco vouchers! I have some here I'll give you mine to replace the ones you used and I can have my £25 back. Thanks. Hun."

If I were you, Id call her and say "I didnt realise you could use tesco vouchers! I have some here I'll give you mine to replace the ones you used and I can have my £25 back. Thanks. Hun

Agreed, if OP did this and said what would you like me to buy £25 worth of with my Tesco vouchers in return for my cash - that would be ok. A bit brazen, but at least maligned friend will still have the same cash value to use somewhere. Or OP could just be a bit more organised next time.

God I have spent so much time on this - I actually don't care that much at all but am surprised by the vitriol directed at a woman who took some kids out for the day to have fun.

Nobody stopped the OP from sending her DD with Tesco vouchers to cover her entrance.

And the friend didn't make £75 as explained earlier. If anything she converted £50 or less to cash.
but could have used the vouchers elsewhere for similar amount of money.

I'd really be generous on this one rather than petty.

Lumpen- they aren't transferrable.
to reiterate, i am on the fence- i think yanbu but overreacting and that the vouchers generally equate to half price, not quarter. This is because not only of the opportunity cost of what you could buy with the points, but also of how much you could get what you are buying for- eg you could get £25 of stuff at prezzo or theme park, but you could also get bogof vouchers for prezzo online or theme parks on a cereal packet. So that devalues the £25 in that you would be mad to pay that anyway! Hence my personal equation is always double points value, regardless of the deal.

So basically maligned friend has to be aware of all other deals that may affect what her vouchers can be used for and then that into a reduced value offering to another friend (OP) in order not to be grabby!

The mind boggles...

The fact that so many people here don't think there was anything wrong in what your friend did, should show you that your friend probably follows the same train of thought as the rest of us saying 'YABU', so there was quite likely nothing sneaky or underhand in what she did, that she didn't sit scheming trying to get one over on you.

Its a matter of interpretation and logic, or lack of

I have a discount card for M&S, that was my grandmothers, who was an employee. As part of their pension the retired workers used to get a discount card. 20% off, up to a couple of thousand per year. I still use it (legitimately, I have checked) and it has about £200 of discount still on it. Once that is used that will obviously be the end of it as my dgm has passed away.

If op had asked me to get her something from M&S that was £25, and while I was there I decided to get something to eat, but had no cash so used my discount card to get a fiver off and kept it, would that be out of order too?

Should the op automatically be entitled to use the last of my deceased gran's pension fund because it hadn't cost me anything?

It's interesting what you say about the mutual friend pulling an awkward face. I'm guessing she is clocking you as ungrateful and miserly, just as many of us in here do.

Ok, so last month we went to a family wedding. The recommended hotel had a 75£ wedding rate, but i realised it was on Tesco clubcard if we stayed the weekend. I therefore bought three rooms for us, my parents and my brothers family, each costing £180 for two nights but could be paid in clubcard deals vouchers. At 3x points value. So £540. Would only have been £450 cash on the wedding deal, but due to my equating their intrinsic value at 2x, it seemed cheaper to pay more but in tokens costing 18000 points. (£180 straight swap in Tesco, or doubled up at £360).

now i am left feeling pretty miffed as my parents didn't have any vouchers( they knew i was booking like this), and my brother lives abroad, so i paid for all three rooms for two nights, using up all my hard earned clubcard vouchers, and noone has given me any money for them. It is difficult because if we had just booked my parents would have paid, probably 450for all of us as it was a family wedding. I know, entitled, right? Instead, i used a million points, worth 180-540 pounds in this instance. And because of the very issue on this thread, i have never asked anyone for money. But i do feel very miffed at paying for their rooms without intending to!!

Ebay question:

If the friend had spent say £10 to buy a voucher for theme park entry (Also available for purchase for £25) on ebay then the friend would have £10 no longer available to her to spend.

If she spent her own voucher worth £25 she would have £25 no longer available for her to spend (albeit on a limited range of items).

If she spent £25 in cash on the ticket she would have £25 no longer available for her to spend.

So yes, if she'd bought cheap vouchers on ebay then she should have passed on the saving (same for discounted rates) but since she didn't do that, the voucher she used was worth £25 to her. Anything less than that paid by the OP would have been a loss to the friend.

"If I were you, Id call her and say "I didnt realise you could use tesco vouchers! I have some here I'll give you mine to replace the ones you used and I can have my £25 back. Thanks. Hun"

Vouchers are not transferable so this isn't an option.

"If I were you, Id call her and say "I didnt realise you could use tesco vouchers! I have some here Let me know what you would like me to redeem them for and I'll send you the item or voucher Then I can have my £25 back. Thanks. Hun"

Now that works.

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I wonder whether all the people who claim to see no problem with this have a group of seething acquaintances behind them, who keep swearing blind that they are NOT going out for a meal with them ever again after the way they acted when divvying up the bill

Seriously - did you even think that through?

Those of us saying if we were the OP we wouldn't mind if a friend had done this are the ones you are accusing of being the ones pissing about and causing problems with a bill How on earth do you work that out?

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you can't do anything about it but it is underhand and you probably feel a bit cheated. put it down to experience, yanbu

... and even if you logic was right (which it clearly isn't) you are wrong in your assumption. As a vegetarian who rarely drinks I always end up subsidising the bill if it's split evenly and I am always the one to suggest it because I cannot abide picking through the bill to see who ate or drank what. On the other hand, if someone else wants to do that and tell everyone what they 'owe' that's fine by me - and always cheaper.

Anyway, sorry for the derail everyone else, I just hate it when people have to say nasty things to try to make their point.

that's awful bedraggled, in that scenario you should have definitely been given money! maybe you just did not explain properly? or did they just assume great, this is a freebie on bedraggled?

... but laugh like a drain when their point doesn't even make sense