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My friend kept dds money and used Tesco vouchers

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jammyjamjam · 03/09/2014 12:24

Hi, ds had inservice yesterday and a friend (a mum from school) offered to take her, her own dd and 2 others to an amusement park, entry fee was 25 pounds. When ds got back in the afternoon, we chatted about the day and it turns out the mum paid for my dd and the 2 other children with Tesco vouchers, ie, she had redeemed her Tesco points to pay for the 4 dcs and then kept 75 pounds form my dd and the 2 other dc. Surely she could have told us that this place took in Tesco vouchers and I could have used my own points and saved the money? I'm grateful that she took dd but surely she should have been upfront about her intention of using vouchers....AIBU?

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GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/09/2014 10:31

Latte - that is clearly fine. Although it would have been friendly if she'd mentioned that you could get deals on entry if OP and other mums wanted to look for them. That wouldn't have cost her and would have saved the others money.

whatever5 · 04/09/2014 10:32

Because the cash value is only 6.25. The amount you'd get in store.

Firstly that is not the amount off you would get in the store (you would get a lot more). Secondly, even if it was, why would that be the cash value? The tickets are worth what you can buy for them. If you can use them to get in places that normally costs 25 pounds then that is what they are worth.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:32

Using her vouchers to pay for the other children has 'used them up'. She now can't use them in a restaurant/other theme park/whatever to buy things for her family (on the same 4:1 basis) how does it make any difference to you which venue she used them at?

Lweji · 04/09/2014 10:32

I've never been to this place before and didn't know you could use tesco vouchers for it.

Well, I'm sure you don't have to go to find out that you can use Tesco points.
It never occurred to you. Tough.
You use your points elsewhere. Good for you.

It is NOT her responsibility to tell you where you can spend your points, FGS.

SirChenjin · 04/09/2014 10:33

Lweji - exactly! Which is why she should have used her points for her DC and the cash she was given for the other children. No cash profit made and she doesn't lose her valuable points.

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jammyjamjam · 04/09/2014 10:34

latte...she did make a profit. She turned 19 pounds worth of points (given free by tescos) which can only be spent in certain places into 75 pounds cash!!
If there was no profit tio be made, she wouldn't have used her vouchers would she, she would have paid the 3 kids entrance with their cash and then used a voucher for her dd. She knew exactly what she was doing and that's what's really upsetting

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Lweji · 04/09/2014 10:35

Because the friend didn't spend £25 in cash cash to get £25 worth of vouchers to then exchange them for £25 worth of an entry ticket.
I'm sure she spent a lot more than £25 in cash at Tesco to get those points. :)
And she could have used the vouchers at other places, say... having a meal out.

whatever5 · 04/09/2014 10:35

And tesco vouchers have a 2 year expiry or something like that

Cash doesn't have any expiry though and for that reason I much prefer it to vouchers. That doesn't mean I would have gained financially if I swapped vouchers for cash. I would just have more flexibility.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:35

Ghoul - yes, that's the only bit where it falls down a little bit, but a lot of these vouchers seem a bit complicated to use if they aren't yours. I think the pre-mediated action makes it seem a little underhand, but I think if you stop to think long enough, you can see it actually makes no difference. The 'other mum' has 'used up' her vouchers and the OP still has hers to use on something else for the same 4:1 ratio.

Bouttimeforwine · 04/09/2014 10:36

She didn't make a sneaky profit. She exchanged the vouchers for cash, giving her more flexibility where to spend it, but it is still £25, whichever way you look at it- be it a voucher worth £25 to spend another time or £25 cash. There is no profit involved anywhere, it just gave her more flexibility.

Yes she could have used vouchers for her tickets and cash for the others. You ask why didn't she do this? I'm sure she could have done. But why not take the opportunity to convert it to cash? It made no odds to the op either way. It's a sensible way to make her £25 more flexible. It's still £25 but she can spend it more flexibly.

She would have been mad to get everyone else to convert their vouchers, in 4 different names. What would have happened if they were refused?

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:37

Exactly - all she has gained is flexibility over where to use the £25.

SirChenjin · 04/09/2014 10:38

No - it's been explained upthread many times that she doesn't need to spend £25 to get £25 in vouchers Lweji

Which again takes me back to my point...if they were so valuable to her she should have used them for her own DC and used the cash she was given to pay for the others. But she saw a way to make a cash profit - and that was obviously more valuable to her than her points.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:39

I don't understand why people can't see that and I don't know how to say it anymore clearly

IF it was a deal where the other mum had a friends and family card giving her a discount on that theme park or a two for one voucher or something I can understand that... but not just 'paying differently'.

GummiberryJuice · 04/09/2014 10:39

For all of you saying she could have used the vouchers for something else then why didn't she? and just let the ops daughter spend the £25 entry fee.
She chose to profit from her friends, I would never dream of taking the entry fee.

kittykatsforever · 04/09/2014 10:40

I never implied you should pay childminding or say you needed it but the point is you had a day to yourself to do as you wish I'd pay more then £25 for that btwand someone to watch dd, if you had taken her it would have cost you more no? Your entrance fee aswell?
Interested to know was the price £25 to get in or was that a reduced price as it was, I know at Alton it's just under £50 and the 25 would be a buy one get one free price! I'm surprised anyone would go anywhere without looking or asking if there's any offers but that I believe is your responsibility as much as hers
Would I risk taking someone else's vouchers no and can you use yours next time yes and take her ds that way, you thought it was a nice treat and a good deal before finding out how she paid so why let it ruin a good friendship. Personally I'd be weary believing a child how anyone paid as they arnt really paying attention and even the other adult probably can't be sure how the transaction was carried out if she used vouchers for all or not but if it bothers you so much rather then bitch just ask were you able to get and discount tickets etc I hadn't realised I could have used my tesco vouchers and see what she says

FishWithABicycle · 04/09/2014 10:41

She didn't make a profit. You gave her £25 to buy something worth £25. She used something worth £25 to buy something worth £25.

You are being astonishingly petty about this.

Tesco points ARE NOT FREE. You pay for them with every shopping bill. Unless the nice Mr Tesco just kindly gives you all your groceries and a bunch of points with no money ever changing hands because he likes you so much. The rest of us have to pay.

whatever5 · 04/09/2014 10:43

SirChenjin- People keep explaining why converting vouchers to cash = more flexibility but not profit. If you still don't understand, I don't think you are going to. It seems that OP doesn't understand either which is perhaps why her friend didn't waste her time trying to explain it to her in the first place.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/09/2014 10:43

Cash is more valuation than points

Topaz25 · 04/09/2014 10:45

Personally, I think it's a bit dodgy because she didn't have to pay £25 entry fee each for the children because of clubcard boost but still charged the parents £25 each when she didn't spend the equivalent in vouchers. So she has been left with extra money. If she wanted extra money for snacks, petrol etc then she should have been more upfront about it. If she had mentioned that she was using vouchers then the OP would have had the opportunity to use her own and save money. Or she should only have charged the OP the equivalent of what she actually spent. I have no problem with paying for things using vouchers but I wouldn't invite people, charge them full price, then pay in vouchers and pocket the difference. I have collected BOGOF ticket vouchers to go to Alton Towers with friends before, we all paid half price since that was what seemed fairest, I didn't charge them all full price each and then pay with the entry with BOGOF ticket vouchers.

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:45

SirChenjin

The cost of getting into the theme park is £25.

The other Mum choose to pay in vouchers that she could have used elsewhere giving her £25 to pay for dinner or something else - thus that is what the vouchers are worth. £25.

The cost to her of that £25 voucher may have only been £6.25 but she can choose to use it where she wants. She could have used it to pay for a restaurant or something else, she didn't, she used it to pay entry into a theme park as it was convenient. It is her £25 voucher to use as she pleases.

Have you ever used a gift token you have been given, to buy a present for someone else? It's the same thing - that would be like someone complaining you didn't buy the present, the person giving you the gift token bought it.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/09/2014 10:47

Quite Topaz25.

I think I'm giving up on this thread - I'm getting far more wound up than the OP it!!

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:48

She didn't make a profit. You gave her £25 to buy something worth £25. She used something worth £25 to buy something worth £25

Exactly, I'm finding it very difficult to understand why people can't see that

Topaz that's different though because you couldn't have spent the bogoffs any how else, the other mum in this tale could have.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 04/09/2014 10:48

I'm going to say it once more for luck for those still rationalising the friend's behaviour:

cash is more valuable than points

LatteLoverLovesLattes · 04/09/2014 10:49

Ghoul :) Please don't go! I need to convince you

Pleaseee try to explain why you think it's not reasonable. Slowly....

FishWithABicycle · 04/09/2014 10:49

Topaz I would agree with you if it was BOGOF vouchers but it was not. The vouchers which were used had a value of £25 and could be used to buy goods and services to the value of £25 from a large number of providers. It's not the same at all.

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