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To think my husband should sell his "hundreds of grand" worth of stuff so I don't have to keep supporting him?

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M00nUnit · 20/08/2014 02:20

We've been married for 15 months, together just over 2 years. He's got 3 kids from his previous relationship (they weren't married) so pays a lot of child support. Consequently he can't afford to contribute to my mortgage (for my London flat he lives in with me) or any of the bills. I also pay the £40 a week it costs in fuel for us to drive up to see his kids every weekend (we have them at his Mum's house - she lives really near them fortunately). I also pay whenever we go out anywhere (including with the boys when I pay for all of us) and I've paid for each of the holidays I've been on with him.

Normally this doesn't bother me too much - I just happen to earn more than him (although not MUCH more - I`m a secretary) and I feel very lucky to have found him at all so I don't worry too much about the fact that I have to support him financially. I love his boys and totally understand that they're the most important thing in the world to him. However tonight he dropped what I see as a bit of a bombshell.

We were chatting about whether I should try and sell my rather large CD collection now that I've got all my music on iTunes or whether it would be pointless as CDs are worth nothing these days, and he casually mentioned that he has "hundreds of grands worth" of vintage children's toys in his ex's loft. Tonka toys, Matchbox cars, Star Wars stuff etc.

I was really shocked and asked him why on earth he hadn't sold any of it instead of letting me continue to pay for everything. He got really angry - he said he can't sell any of it because there's too much of it and we'd need a truck to transport it plus he doesn't have the time to catalogue and sell it all. This I told him was really daft because if the haul was worth as much as he said it was it would definitely be worth the time and effort. He got quite nasty - saying that money was clearly all I cared about and he was never going to sell the toys so I "should put that idea out of my head right now". He says he wants to leave them to his sons. He said if I wasn't happy about that then fine - he'll move back in with his mum. Am gutted that he threatened to leave me - that's not what I want at all.

I just don't understand how he thinks it's ok for me to have been bankrolling him all this time and often working overtime to make ends meet when all this time he's been sitting on a goldmine.

He told me when we got together (both at the age of 37) that we could have kids if that's what I wanted, but I decided against it because I didn't think we could afford it. If he'd sold even part of his collection maybe we could have had a baby.

Now after the big row we had tonight I've gone to bed and he's still in the living room and will probably stay there. This whole thing has really thrown me - normally we get on brillliantly and are totally loved up. I hate arguing, and I was shocked by how aggressive and angry he was with me.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking he should make an effort to sell some of this stuff so that I don't have to keep paying for everything? I can understand him wanting to leave something for his kids, but he's not dead yet - we're only 39 and have many years ahead of us!

OP posts:
diggerdigsdogs · 20/08/2014 03:41

There are a few different issues here.

  1. His childish tantrum when you discussed somethin wth you. By bein aggressive he is trying to prevent you from bringing this up again. Ime sad experience this happens more and more until you rarely feel able to bring things up you're unhappy with.

  2. threatening to leave over something so bloody ridiculous really IS a tantrum. Just as you wouldn't indulge a child for indulge him. Tell him to grow up and ignore it or call his bluff. Id call his bluff and invite him to leave.

  3. what % of his salary is going on the kids? If it's too much and he can't afford to live he's paying too much. It's not about taking food from his kids mouths but is he paying the CSa recommended amount or much more? It's great of he wants to pay more but not acceptable for that to come at the price of you having to work more to provide for the two of you. Was his mum paying his way and now he expects you too?

  4. you got married very quickly and haven't been together that long. I don't mean that in a nasty way but how much was money discussed before you married?

  5. don't let him pay into your mortgage. Don't put him on the title. When you eventually get bored of his tantrums and being taken for a ride you'll want to do everything you can to protect your asset. Record EVERYTHING.

diggerdigsdogs · 20/08/2014 03:42

Ffs sorry for spelling and grammar mistakes. Forgot to proofread!

KoalaDownUnder · 20/08/2014 03:52

He said if I wasn't happy about that then fine - he'll move back in with his mum.

I'm just going to come out and say it: why do people even bother getting married anymore??

'I, Cocklodging Wankbadger, take you, Woman Who Loves Too Much, to be my lawful wife forever and ever...or until you want me to sell my Tonka toys, at which point I'll move back in with my mum.'

What the actual fuck is wrong with (some) men these days? He is a FATHER of three, and a HUSBAND. He doesn't get to threaten to move back in with mummy anymore. He needs to man the fuck up and have an adult conversation about his 'toys' (which are probably worth about a few hundred quid.)

I'm so angry on your behalf, OP. Can you tell?

TheCrimsonQueen · 20/08/2014 04:31

Agree with others. He is a cocklodger. You need to get rid. He showed his true colours tonight. Why are you trying to buy his love? You can do better. Send him back to his mothers asap.

MexicanSpringtime · 20/08/2014 04:50

You sound so lovely, OP, I am so sorry to read that you are with someone who doesn't appreciate you.

I still remember when my bf, whom I had been supporting all year - we were students- got a job and talked about all the things he was going to buy with his first pay packet and not a word about starting to pay me back. When I asked him about the money he owed me, he didn't think he owed me anything. It was a real eye-opener!

Maalia · 20/08/2014 06:31

Wow, just wow, so his toy collection is worth more to him than what you could afford if you weren't funding his lifestyle & his children lifestyle, including having a child of your own? Priorities eh? You need to take a cold hard look at the position he is putting you in. Try again to talk to him, more calmly this time, and if he is not willing to resolve this as a team (very important, the team), you need to make a business decision, i.e. Cut the funding, cut the ties or whatever you feel is fair for you both, without taking the cost of his divorce into consideration. His divorce, his problem.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 20/08/2014 06:45

He pays child support but works full time? Does he pay £100% of his salary as child support? Because that's unreasonable. I'm guessing he doesn't actually, but he chooses to keep his leftover money for himself and lets you pay for all the boring things like rent and bills.
Why do you feel so lucky to have him exactly?

LadyLuck10 · 20/08/2014 06:46

But you married him knowing exactly the situation, why didn't you resolve it back then?

maddening · 20/08/2014 06:46

Call his bluff - if he leaves then he was just using you.

Attheendof · 20/08/2014 06:46

My jaw is on the floor reading this.
You are throwing your life away.
How will you feel in your 40s about working to support his dcs, having been unable to pay for one of your own?

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 20/08/2014 06:47

I think his toy valuation is bullshit.

If he's paying CSA that's a proportion of his taxable income. Why isn't the rest going on accommodation, bills, contact with the children?

How was he managing financially before you started subsidising him?

YANBU. He sounds awful. He's not treating you with love and respect and I agree that in the honeymoon period if your marriage, that's a really bad sign.

Attheendof · 20/08/2014 06:47

And his collection might be worth a couple of hundred quid.

maddening · 20/08/2014 06:47

Ps how much does he earn and how much does he pay in child support ?

maddening · 20/08/2014 06:48

And how old are the dc?

maddening · 20/08/2014 06:49

And ps if you have any equity in your flat and have doubts about the relationship leaving earlier will be better for protecting it.

FunkyBoldRibena · 20/08/2014 06:50

If money is what you desire...

I'd let him move in with mummy. This relationship is not all it seems.

Where does the rest of his money go? Do you even see any of it? He can't be handing his whole wage to his ex, that would be crazy...you need to look into this and perhaps stop bankrolling him until you sort your finances out.

SorryForTheTypos · 20/08/2014 06:53

They're married - will he have any claim on her flat if OP does bin him?

ememem84 · 20/08/2014 06:54

Just stop paying for things. Easier said than done I know. But is it an option? Obviously you have to pay mortgage bills and essentials. But other things - dinners out, holidays- stop paying for.

TwoHeadedDolphin · 20/08/2014 06:57
  1. Selfish.
  1. Not too late for you to have kids with anyone if that is what you want.
Serenitysutton · 20/08/2014 06:58

Oh no. How awful.

Despite being married I have just bought a house alone- it's reasonably highly leveraged and the bank would not of lent the £ to DH. They are aware he is resident here but he has no claim over the house. I don't think they would lend to a married person singly if the risk was great so I suspect you're ok with your flat.

I have a friend who pays an agreed amount to ex- nothing to do with Csa or % of salary and it's far too much- assume this is what he's doing?

This isn't sustainable long term, you will never have anything you haven't paid for. I really feel for you though. Maybe let him get on with going to his mums and see how it pans out.

kinkymouse · 20/08/2014 06:59

From what you have written he pays for absolutely nothing towards your life together? Is that correct?

He will have money left from maintenance. What does he spend it on, is he open about this with you? I'm sorry but he does sound like a cocklodger. I'd call his bluff and see if his DM is willing to support him at 37. I'm guessing not.

EarthWindFire · 20/08/2014 07:03

They're married - will he have any claim on her flat if OP does bin him?

In short yes it is a joint asset. What amount if it however isn't that simple and no one here could double guess it.

TheLavender · 20/08/2014 07:04

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EarthWindFire · 20/08/2014 07:05

Despite being married I have just bought a house alone- it's reasonably highly leveraged and the bank would not of lent the £ to DH. They are aware he is resident here but he has no claim over the house. I don't think they would lend to a married person singly if the risk was great so I suspect you're ok with your flat.

Have you taken legal advise on that. It doesn't matter if you are married who is on the deeds or mortgage.

PinkSquash · 20/08/2014 07:07

Why did you marry him so quickly was that you or him?

The CSA doesn't take all of his money so where is it going?