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AIBU?

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To feel uneasy about a neighbour?

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lbsjob87 · 07/08/2014 13:47

We've been in our house 12 years, and next door on one side is a single guy in his 60s who has lived there all his life.
He is quite lonely - from conversations had over the years we know he was his mother's carer for 20-odd years then when she died 9 years ago he was at a bit of a loose end.
He rarely sees his family -my OH used to work with his niece and she said they are all very busy etc - typical sad lonely pensioner story. She also suggested that he has what would now be classed as a form of Aspergers, and his family find him a bit "weird".
We try to be friendly and keep an eye out for him but he has no concept of personal space. If we say hello, his eyes light up and we end up talking for up to an hour about literally nothing of note - mashed potato or traffic lights, over and over. We have suggested clubs etc, but he isn't interested.
Our back doors are opposite each other (either side of a fence) so if we open ours, he can see it.
without fail, if we go out to put washing out, whatever, he goes into his garden, and starts a conversation. We can't exactly ignore him, so we now wait till we see he has gone to the shop to go out there. So we, perhaps shamefully, try to avoid him.
Our garden used to be lovely but now is a mess because I won't go out there for any time - I feel like I'm being spied on.
But now I'm starting to feel uneasy about him.
Several years ago, our shed was broken into, so we built a 7ft fence between us and him (also to block him out).
He has built a set of steps so he can see over it for a chat.
His neighbour the other side has a high fence too, but we're on a hill so it's lower our side.
Now my DD is 5, she is old enough to play out there alone, as it's enclosed.
But the other day I heard her speaking to someone - he was talking to her over the fence about school and her baby brother.
She happily chats to him, but I feel it was an inappropriate thing to do.
I don't want to out and out accuse him of being a pervert, and DD knows she mustn't speak to strangers but obviously in her eyes he's not.
He can't get to her at all, and there is absolutely no evidence at all that he is anything other than a lonely old man enjoying the chance for a conversation, but AIBU to just not feel right about this?
And what do I do about it?

OP posts:
Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 09:52

Shockingly people are allowed to respond and to comment upon what she posts.
She has been told by almost every poster that of course she doesn't have to speak to him. But lots of people think her reasons are shitty and exaggerated to try and justify that she just finds him weird and annoying.
And pretending he represents a threat is pathetic and self serving.

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 09:54

Well joinedjustforthis, it would probably depend upon whether he had spent the previous decade clearly being utterly harmless, as this man has.

JoinedJustForThis · 08/08/2014 09:56

it would probably depend upon whether he had spent the previous decade clearly being utterly harmless, as this man has.

Being obtuse or just thick? As mentioned previously - for most of the previous decade the OP has not had a chatty 5 year old daughter.

Would you like it in capitals? should have gone to Specsavers

JoinedJustForThis · 08/08/2014 10:00

But lots of people think her reasons are shitty and exaggerated to try and justify that she just finds him weird and annoying.
And pretending he represents a threat is pathetic and self serving

But the bleeding heart brigade wouldn't accept that she was did just find him "weird and annoying" - that made her "ist" apparently!

It's actually impossible to win with you lot, no wonder OPs drop off of these threads all the time....

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 10:01

Well that's gratuitously aggressive. Would you like to go have a cup of coffee and calm down a bit?

So has he a history of wandering around the neighbourhood trying to talk to children. Does he hang around schools or try and talk to other small kids in the street when there parents are around. Have there been any reports about him trying to invite children into his house. Do local children worry about him. Have children been seen going into his home.

That sort of thing.

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 10:02

Bleeding heart brigade

Mwhahahaha. Grin

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 10:04

If posters who want to imply someone is a paedophiles just to validate their desire to be a bit mean to someone they find dull then I won't mind if they drop off the board.

ChoccaDoobie · 08/08/2014 10:05

So many of you would be more than happy to have a neighbour peering over your fence and talking incessantly to you every single time you go into your garden? I bet you wouldn't. It doesn't make her nasty or unkind. I talk to and help out any of my neighbours and love to chat but I would not want any of them doing this.

Op has said several times that she has tried lots of different things and they haven't worked. She has made it very clear that she does feel for him and has defended him many times but she would like a bit of privacy in her own garden.

ChoccaDoobie · 08/08/2014 10:08

So, all those who think she is bu, what would you actually do?

thornrose · 08/08/2014 10:11

Bleeding do you not see that the OP's tenuous leap from SN/ASD to creepy to paedo is the issue here?

Cheeky76890 · 08/08/2014 10:11

Haven't read the thread. I'd go crazy if our garden wasn't private. Don't mind the odd chat but its nice to have space. Grow some trees? To 9 foot

thornrose · 08/08/2014 10:13

Bleeding Grin I meant joined!

Partridge · 08/08/2014 10:15

Go pag Smile. I totally agree with you.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 10:15

God what a hard situation.

Yabu to make any insinuations. However you have a right to privacy in your own back garden.

The talking to my dd separated by a fence wouldn't worry me.

But I'd be a but Hmm about someone building steps purely to talk over a fence. Be easier to just knock on the door surely???

Not sure how I'd feel about that tbh.

OneInEight · 08/08/2014 10:23

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thereturnofshoesy · 08/08/2014 10:26

so is this the thread of the week?
seems like every week now someone starts a thread like this, basically a thread designed as woe it is me
but really a not very nice one about sn.
seems to happen to often to be a coincidence.
so much for the "this is my child" campaign

JoinedJustForThis · 08/08/2014 10:32

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thereturnofshoesy · 08/08/2014 10:35

"the usual brigade".
WTF
i rest my case

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 10:38

Im sorry Joined, I see your frustration now.

It must be really difficult not to be able to post gleefully about the weird bloke next door definitely being a peedo without people thinking you're a bit of a twat and arguing.
[poorlamb sadface]

kentishgirl · 08/08/2014 10:40

I feel sorry for everyone in this.

The old man - he's lonely and not able to pick up social interaction cues and boundaries, meaning he ends up even more isolated.

The OP - she has been kind to this man but she isn't responsible for him and his happiness, she's been a good neighbour, but it's all going too far now and stopping her being able to enjoy her own garden.

TBH though OP, I'd let him and the dd get on with chatting away. It's so unlikely to be anything dodgy, and you can always ask dd about it casually now and then, and make sure she knows that she must never go anywhere without asking you first. 99.9% it's just the two of them finally finding an audience where they can yak away for hours to their hearts content. Older people and young children often find a connection - there's nothing weird about that. My Dad has been a true grumpy old antisocial git to anyone but family all his life (bless) but now he has Alzheimers one of the few random things to put a genuine big smile on his face is seeing a cute baby/toddler.

MrsWinnibago · 08/08/2014 10:40

On Mumsnet NOBODY is allowed to suspect ANY man of ANYTHING without proof.

INstincts mean nothing.

Deverethemuzzler · 08/08/2014 10:41

Built some steps.

Yeah. That totally happened.

Has he started digging a tunnel yet?

Pagwatch · 08/08/2014 10:44

Haha -yes, the poor men.
Mn is world renown for giving men the benefit of the doubt Grin

What parts of mn actually object to is 'lonely/socially inept/man with SN = dangerous paedophiles.

bottlecat · 08/08/2014 10:44

He's not a strange man...the OP has lived next door to him for 12 years!

thereturnofshoesy · 08/08/2014 10:45

well if we are talking instincts
my instincts tell me this thread is not what it seems.