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To feel uneasy about a neighbour?

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lbsjob87 · 07/08/2014 13:47

We've been in our house 12 years, and next door on one side is a single guy in his 60s who has lived there all his life.
He is quite lonely - from conversations had over the years we know he was his mother's carer for 20-odd years then when she died 9 years ago he was at a bit of a loose end.
He rarely sees his family -my OH used to work with his niece and she said they are all very busy etc - typical sad lonely pensioner story. She also suggested that he has what would now be classed as a form of Aspergers, and his family find him a bit "weird".
We try to be friendly and keep an eye out for him but he has no concept of personal space. If we say hello, his eyes light up and we end up talking for up to an hour about literally nothing of note - mashed potato or traffic lights, over and over. We have suggested clubs etc, but he isn't interested.
Our back doors are opposite each other (either side of a fence) so if we open ours, he can see it.
without fail, if we go out to put washing out, whatever, he goes into his garden, and starts a conversation. We can't exactly ignore him, so we now wait till we see he has gone to the shop to go out there. So we, perhaps shamefully, try to avoid him.
Our garden used to be lovely but now is a mess because I won't go out there for any time - I feel like I'm being spied on.
But now I'm starting to feel uneasy about him.
Several years ago, our shed was broken into, so we built a 7ft fence between us and him (also to block him out).
He has built a set of steps so he can see over it for a chat.
His neighbour the other side has a high fence too, but we're on a hill so it's lower our side.
Now my DD is 5, she is old enough to play out there alone, as it's enclosed.
But the other day I heard her speaking to someone - he was talking to her over the fence about school and her baby brother.
She happily chats to him, but I feel it was an inappropriate thing to do.
I don't want to out and out accuse him of being a pervert, and DD knows she mustn't speak to strangers but obviously in her eyes he's not.
He can't get to her at all, and there is absolutely no evidence at all that he is anything other than a lonely old man enjoying the chance for a conversation, but AIBU to just not feel right about this?
And what do I do about it?

OP posts:
PleaseJustShootMeNow · 08/08/2014 21:53

It's not really kind pretending to like someone for 12 years when you actually can't stand them. It's deceitful and cruel.

redbinneo · 08/08/2014 21:55

"there is absolutely no evidence at all that he is anything other than a lonely old man enjoying the chance for a conversation, but AIBU to just not feel right about this?
And what do I do about it?"

Be a good neighbour and talk to him, and hope you never turn into a lonely old woman looking for a conversation with a neighbour that doesn't care.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 22:00

Do to we all "fake it" at times??

I've lived in places where I've not liked my neighbours but I've not disliked them, or I've found them annoying, however I was always polite, if they wanted to chat I chatted etc

Nothing to do with being deceitful or cruel, just no need to be rude and ignore them or not talk to them.

Perhaps she liked him at first but he's got to much now.

The only reason to pretend to like someone to be purposely cruel is for personal gain. Op has nothing to gain from this person and is taking no pleasure in him thinking they are friends. She's just struggling to know how to cool things off in a way he will understand.

SweetSummerSweetPea · 08/08/2014 22:02

YY GILES.

lbsjob87 · 08/08/2014 22:02

Iona I think that might be for the best.
I started this thread because I genuinely felt uncomfortable at the lengths this person goes to to talk to my daughter.
At no point did I claim this was because he may or may not have a learning disability. I mentioned this because it is in fact one of the reasons I try to give him attention, but his attention is becoming obsessive.
I feel the thread has taken a very nasty and unnecessary turn, I and others have been personally abused and I think it's just got way out of hand.
Obviously I don't have a say but I can't see this ending well.

OP posts:
SweetSummerSweetPea · 08/08/2014 22:04

Maryz, I am not sure what you are reading here, I have made myself as clear as I can.

I am happy for the thread to stand I think comments about speculation are odd when the whole thread is asking - us to speculate on this mans motives for building steps to peer over a fence.

SweetSummerSweetPea · 08/08/2014 22:06

but his attention is becoming obsessive

seek help from as many areas as you can SS, and so on...its a maze but hopefully somewhere you will end up with some proper advice.

thereturnofshoesy · 08/08/2014 22:08

dear op the thread turned nasty when you started it. end of

PleaseJustShootMeNow · 08/08/2014 22:09

AS is NOT a learning disability.

SweetSummerSweetPea · 08/08/2014 22:12

No she asked a perfectly reasonable question for help and ideas. Thankfully she has some ideas to go on...

People have as usual twisted it and turned on her when in fact she has been a lovely neighbour...

thereturnofshoesy · 08/08/2014 22:13

wow after the stuff the op has posted....thank god she isn't my neighbour

Maryz · 08/08/2014 22:13

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Maryz · 08/08/2014 22:14

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PleaseJustShootMeNow · 08/08/2014 22:19

People with AS don't 'fake it' and we don't expect people to 'fake it' with us. That's why it destroys us everytime we find out our 'friends' aren't really our friends at all. It blindsides us everytime. It doesn't help us at all. It confuses us and leaves us hurt and even more frightened of talking to people in the future. Every time it happens it chips away another piece of our souls. The last time it happened to me I retreated into my house for almost a year. I literally didn't step beyond my doors at all for that time.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 22:23

If your friends did that then I'm sorry,that is mean.

However this neighbour isn't a friend. He's never in assuming, been invited out for a drink or taken to a film or been round for dinner etc.

They have talked over a fence about potato and general small talk.

I bet he doesn't even know birthdays or last names.

Beautifullymixed · 08/08/2014 22:24

Yes Maryz I agree.

I read the OPs last post and wondered who has been abusing who?!!

Imo the people who have been the rudest are defending her . Again and again their posts have become more accusing and lacking compassion.

I said it earlier on in the thread- I'm glad the OPs next door neighbour isn't (hopefully) reading this thread.

He may never want to leave his house again. Sad.

DamonAllbran · 08/08/2014 22:24

And the person who has been personally abused the most is the unfortunate neighbour

I think there are a few victims people that would disagree with that statement...

Beautifullymixed · 08/08/2014 22:34

The poor man has been accused, tried, found guilty with no proof.

I have trouble 'reading' people and emotions, and
I hope when I'm old that I'm lucky enough to have neighbours/friends that are honest with me, and not sighing when they see me. Or glad to see the back of me when I go.

Some of the stories on this thread are heartbreaking. I hate fakeness.

Just be kind, honest and be straight with people.

PleaseJustShootMeNow · 08/08/2014 22:34

Giles, I'm sorry but you are missing something vitally important about how people with Asperger's think. If this man does have AS and if the OP talks to him as much as she says she does, I would absolutely bet my house on the fact that he thinks she is his friend. Clearly she isn't and never has been. That's the problem at the heart of this thread.

Gruntfuttock · 08/08/2014 22:40

I can't work out what DamonAllbran means. Confused Surely not that the neighbour has victims.

Gruntfuttock · 08/08/2014 22:42

PleaseJustShootMeNow "Giles, I'm sorry but you are missing something vitally important about how people with Asperger's think. If this man does have AS and if the OP talks to him as much as she says she does, I would absolutely bet my house on the fact that he thinks she is his friend. Clearly she isn't and never has been. That's the problem at the heart of this thread."

The other problem is her suspicion of his motive for talking to her daughter. I suspect he would be heartbroken if he knew.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 22:42

But no one knows if he has it or not. And op never set out to hurt him or upset him.

There's a difference between deliberately setting out to hurt someone and trying to be friendly/neighbourly/polite etc

If op knew 12 years ago that this is how things would turn out then perhaps she would have changes how she has spoken to him all these years.

Fact remains is, his family are the ones that have ditched him. They don't visit, they wrote him off as "weird" and yet op is in the wrong because she's felt sorry for him, tried to help him, ferried him about etc and he's taken it to far.

As hurtful as her actions now may sound. This is to what she wanted, she never set out to hurt him. She's my laughing at the "stupid neighbour who thinks they are friends ha ha ha" That must count for something.

She's doing what a lot of people have said on this thread. Shown him compassion, been nice to him. Reciprocated conversations. Etc.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 22:43

This isn't

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/08/2014 22:44

She's not laughing

Bloody iphone

SweetSummerSweetPea · 08/08/2014 22:46

Clearly she isn't and never has been

So what are you suggesting for this lonely man now whose family have totally abandoned him and written him off as weird.....

That she should have never ever spoken to him? Made his eyes light up? Ignored him?

She has been friendly and neighbourly she has suggested clubs he wasn't interested.

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