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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think friend should offer to help?!

237 replies

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 22:06

I have a friend of 10+ years we both have young DC's of the same age for at least 5+ years I've been doing dinner for us both by kind of being nominated by here I.e she'll say do you want to do dinner, well discuss then she'll expect me to take it out of my freezer, prepare it, cook it, wash it all up etc.

It's kind of getting to the point where I'm wondering why she never once offers when I do my food shop we go together and she comes round about 3 times a week at the minimum where I will then do her DC dinner as well as mine using double the amount of food I normally would and then do her dinner along with mine so once again using double the amount of food, I'll also end up bathing her DC here too and putting him to sleep till she goes home.

AIBU to start to get a tad annoyed that I'm essentially doing my food shop for a family of 4 when there is only two, I have to pick up her dc's towel because she'll leave it on the floor, cook the dc's dinner with no help, wash it all up then do the same for her. She never offers to wash up but says she can't cook so won't do dinner at hers and doesn't have sky so we have at least 2 nights a week where we watch the same programme so she has to come round or not see it.

AIBU? I most probably am I'm in a pants mood Hmm

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YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 22:59

No she doesn't bring anything, may occasionally buy something to go with dinner if she fancies it but I'll still cook it, bring it to her, wash up, bin the rubbish etc. She'll put her plate in the kitchen.

She's has a DP who comes round maybe 3 nights a week so they're the nights I don't see her or If I'm seeing my DP but she doesn't like him so will always when I mention him show she's not interested or be like "oh fuck off DP" "Who cares what he said" etc. My DP has been an arse previously no doubt but so has hers to some degree. I just can't bring it up I brought up the subject she never said hello to him first etc with her and she got in a mood because she shouldn't have to say hello first.

We went out yesterday for a meal and cinema and today she said "yeah DP enjoyed himself he just said shame about the company" Sad

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pluCaChange · 30/06/2014 23:00

Sorry, that sounded a bit harsh, but you really need to get away from her. You're probably so very passive because you're demoralised and feel trapped. However, we're looking at it from the outside, and believe us, there are fresh air and fresh friends out here.

Is your DC far off starting school/preschool? That could give you the break you need. Afternoon clubs if her DC isn't doing it, no club if her DC is. Other children for playdates. Quiet nights to recover from the hectic day..

How does your DC feel about not being alone with you all day?

cozietoesie · 30/06/2014 23:01

I'm sorry - this is all too much for me. I find it hard to believe that anyone coud be just such a pushover.

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:02

No Beryl my mother we were talking about owning are own homes, jobs etc

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Bogeyface · 30/06/2014 23:02

Google "Am I being emotionally abused?"

You dont have to be living with someone to be the victim of an abusive relationship. She isolating you, taking your money and your time, is verbally abusive, and tries to make everything your fault.

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:03

Hit enter too soon. She has a job, I currently don't I was saying how hard my mother found it

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 30/06/2014 23:03

Much as I agree with Garlic that you should tell her to FO I don't think that that is what you want to do as it sounds like you want to stay friends. So baby steps:-

"Do you want to wash up or bath the kids and put them to bed?"
"I was thinking - we always meet on a Tues and a Thurs - shall we say that I do dinner on a Tuesday and you do it on a Thursday. You can't cook and my telly is better - well if you bring the ingredients I'll do the actual cooking as long as you supervise the kids. Perhaps bring 4 chicken breasts and a couple of red peppers this Thursday."

Bogeyface · 30/06/2014 23:04

I'm sorry - this is all too much for me. I find it hard to believe that anyone coud be just such a pushover

Then either report it or hide the thread. How is that in any way helpful? If the OP is genuine then she needs help to deal with this, and if she isnt then report it and MNHQ will zap it. I see no need for that comment.

Panzee · 30/06/2014 23:04

Please re read your posts. You know what to do. :(

BerylStreep · 30/06/2014 23:06

She is not a friend to you.

Someone told me years ago to cut out the dead wood from my life, and it really made me evaluate my relationships. I got rid of a 'friend' who was like a millstone. It was a breath of fresh air being without her, and it opened the way for great new friends.

She is abusive towards you - emotionally and financially.

What are you going to do?

GarlicJunoWho · 30/06/2014 23:08

My god, she even passes on her DP's insults about you Angry

I totally agree, you are being emotionally and financially abused. Please, please, clue yourself up and keep asking the lovely posters here for what support you need.

I want to tell her what's what on your behalf!!!

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:08

The DC's are in bed at 7 I will want to put my DC to bed though so we have dinner after the DC's so they don't need supervising then.

I ofc want to be friends with her but I know if I say to her look I'm kind of tired of cooking all the time and washing up she'll get annoyed about it and make it awkward so I'll do it anyway! I always say to her. "oh I've still got to wash up" she'll go "oh that's a shame and then go as she'll have to be up early for work"

I think she see's it as I don't work I've got time to be up late washing up etc, as she normally doesn't leave till like 10pm

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BuildYourOwnSnowman · 30/06/2014 23:11

I think it would be better if you spent your time trying to make new friends at groups/nursery etc

You are obviously lonely and I feel for you - I know how long evenings can feel. But can you really say she is your friend? It sounds like she doesn't even really talk to you?

The fact that you are afraid of standing up to her says it all really.

GarlicJunoWho · 30/06/2014 23:13

Are you scared of setting boundaries, Bello?

YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:15

I don't really like groups etc, and my DC is going to a friend who runs a nursery at the next term, We've been pregnant together, done the majour stuff together etc so don't want to cut her out my life

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YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:16

No Garlic I set boundaries for my DS ect, but even if I do anything that may be seen as criticism or telling her off or her DC she'll get annoyed and make comments etc

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Susyb30 · 30/06/2014 23:19

Feel like I want to give you a hug. Please put a stop to this..you can. Don't doubt yourself. God id like to give your so called "friend" -a slap-a piece of my mind!
Believe me you will come out of this feeling stronger..she has no right to abuse your generosity like this. Go to your gp or health visitor and ask about groups you can join to make new friends. .enjoy time yourself with your dc's, without her constantly in the picture. .sponging off you. Good luck. Do think about the advice you are being given x

BerylStreep · 30/06/2014 23:21

Of course she gets annoyed if you stand up to her - that is how she controls you.

I really wish you could see how this looks from this side of the screen, but when you re in the middle of it, it is hard to look at things objectively.

BuildYourOwnSnowman · 30/06/2014 23:21

don't you feel like you're treading on eggshells all the time?

You have obviously come on here to have a moan but you need to listen to some of the posters above. this is not a healthy situaton

Bogeyface · 30/06/2014 23:21

Being scared to confront abusive behaviour for fear of upsetting the abuser is a common reaction to what you are going through.

Its called "walking on eggshells" and that is what you are doing. She kicks off until you give in for a quiet life. She is manipulative, selfish and mean.

I agree that if you say that you dont want to cook for her 3 times a week, she will suddenly not be available to see you. And I have to ask, how can she earn 45k if she is spending 3 days a week with you?

"Emotional abuse can happen between parent and child, husband and wife, among relatives and between friends."

"In the following areas, ask these questions to see if you are abusing or being abused:

Humiliation, degradation, discounting, negating. judging, criticizing:
    Does anyone make fun of you or put you down in front of others?
    Do they tease you, use sarcasm as a way to put you down or degrade you?
    When you complain do they say that “it was just a joke” and that you are too sensitive?
    Do they tell you that your opinion or feelings are “wrong?”
    Does anyone regularly ridicule, dismiss, disregard your opinions, thoughts, suggestions, and feelings?
Domination, control, and shame:
    Do you feel that the person treats you like a child?
    Do they constantly correct or chastise you because your behavior is “inappropriate?”
    Do you feel you must “get permission” before going somewhere or before making even small decisions?
    Do they control your spending?
    Do they treat you as though you are inferior to them?
    Do they make you feel as though they are always right?
    Do they remind you of your shortcomings?
    Do they belittle your accomplishments, your aspirations, your plans or even who you are?
    Do they give disapproving, dismissive, contemptuous, or condescending looks, comments, and behavior?
Accusing and blaming, trivial and unreasonable demands or expectations, denies own shortcomings:
    Do they accuse you of something contrived in their own minds when you know it isn’t true?
    Are they unable to laugh at themselves?
    Are they extremely sensitive when it comes to others making fun of them or making any kind of comment that seems to show a lack of respect?
    Do they have trouble apologizing?
    Do they make excuses for their behavior or tend to blame others or circumstances for their mistakes?
    Do they call you names or label you?
    Do they blame you for their problems or unhappiness?
    Do they continually have “boundary violations” and disrespect your valid requests?
Emotional distancing and the “silent treatment,” isolation, emotional abandonment or neglect:
    Do they use pouting, withdrawal or withholding attention or affection?
    Do they not want to meet the basic needs or use neglect or abandonment as punishment?
    Do they play the victim to deflect blame onto you instead of taking responsibility for their actions and attitudes?
    Do they not notice or care how you feel?
    Do they not show empathy or ask questions to gather information?
Codependence and enmeshment:
    Does anyone treat you not as a separate person but instead as an extension of themselves?
    Do they not protect your personal boundaries and share information that you have not approved?
    Do they disrespect your requests and do what they think is best for you?
    Do they require continual contact and haven’t developed a healthy support network among their own peers?"
YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:21

Susyb30 - as I said defiantly not a group person

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YouSayBelloISayPoppaye · 30/06/2014 23:23

Bogey as I said it's my mum who earns 45k, mortgage house etc!

We were discussing the future house etc when I said how hard it was for her with what she earnt etc

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Bogeyface · 30/06/2014 23:24

Ahh, gotya! I couldnt work that out, but it has been a rather long day!

Susyb30 · 30/06/2014 23:37

Ok so not a group person..still think it would be worth a chat with gp or health visitor, be honest with them. Maybe they can offer help or put you in touch with someone who can help. We can all tell you that this friend you have is using you. .only you don't see it! pisses me off that there are such sponging bastards (sorry but she is) and they get away with this! Honestly op..put your own kids first and get a life without her dragging you down constantly. Very clever she is..what a manipulator. (Using cow)

Trillions · 30/06/2014 23:38

I'm sorry - this is all too much for me. I find it hard to believe that anyone coud be just such a pushover

Ditto. Most people will take the piss if you let them.

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