To want to shout at this bloody child..

[Wilberforce2]

Not sure if I'm being a bit precious but this is driving me mental.

Every Tuesday my ds does rugby 4-5 and as they are only reception and year 1 all of the parents stay. I like staying and enjoy watching him but one of the little girls of another parent is doing my head in. I have a 4 month old dd and every week this little girl does not leave her alone, constantly plays with the hood on the pram (pushing it backwards and forwards), putting her fingers in the babies mouth, kissing her on the lips, takes her toys/muslin off of her, pokes her eyes it just goes on and on. Last week this girl had a heavy cold and was constantly wiping snot around her face then walked over to dd in her pram (I dared to take my eyes off of her for a second) and stuck her fingers in her mouth, Friday my dd gets an awful cold. The mum just laughs and says "oh she is so motherly" or "she just loves babies" but I want her to tell her to leave her alone for one fricking second. Today I told the girl no a few times and had a couple of looks from the mum who then said "oh *** come over here darling I don't think you are wanted" but I can't just watch her prod and poke her for an hour, she was trying to put a pine cone in her mouth then whipped her with a muslin!

Am I being precious or would you keep telling the girl no? Little girl is 2 years old. Older brother is in my ds's class so I don't want to cause an argument.

[SirChenjin]

But I'm sure that there are other people you don't care too much for, or are completely indifferent to - as opposed to actively hate, aren't there? And you probably don't care about their feelings either. Or is it all or nothing with you? Hate isn't the only emotion which results in a lack of caring about how others feel (to the extent that you'd worry about telling a snotty 2 year old who is allowed to do what she wants, and her lazy mare of a mother, to do one).

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

well, I'm indifferent to most people but I generally find all babies and toddlers very endearing, even when they are being annoying. my toddlers don't seem remotely interested in babies so I must be doing something right... it took ds1 months to notice he had a little brother.

[SirChenjin]

Bet the OP wishes Snot Nose had the same lack of interest in babies...

And on that delightful note, I'm off to bed. Night night

[mathanxiety]

Sentimentality followed by a rude awakening for the children when they hit Reception and the world of rules... I don't think that's kind to the children in the long run.

[PlumpPartridge]

Math, I completely agree with everything you've said. I think it is my job as an adult to make the call between happy toddler+risk of negative fallout and sad toddler+more positive situation.

In this case, I think sad toddler plus non-tormented baby outweighs happy toddler plus tormented baby (especially when it isn't even the op's toddler that is doing the tormenting)!

[Mrsjayy]

Maths I agree with you parents who allow toddlers to wander poke annoy babies are in for a shock when theygo to school,, vampyre your children might not be that fussed about babies but if they were I bet you wouldn't allow them to poke a baby play with the pram hood etc etc every time they saw a baby in a rugby field

[ThrowAChickenInTheAir]

We'll said Maths. Agree with every word. Exactly our approach.

[Delphiniumsblue]

I am surprised that this thread is still going and that it can be discussed at such length when it is so simple- toddler bothers baby -therefore baby's mother stops her ,or asks toddler's mother to stop her.

[InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream]

Erm.....no delphinium. How about the toddlers mother doesn't let her do it in the first place?

[CruCru]

Bit random - but has usualsuspect disappeared and been replaced by usualsuspectt?

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

silly fair enough, not everyone loves kids. It's obviously not abnormal though, given that people have ambitions to work with kids whereas I don't know many who particularly want to work with blondes or people with freckles.

I think kids are awesome. Pre-DC, not so much. but what's not to love, young children aren't like adults at all.

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

why did you want to work with them in the first place?

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

and piss of with your suggestion that I don't realise they are people - I have 3. and think kids are awesome in spite of tantrums and annoying behaviour..

[hoobypickypicky]

"but what's not to love, young children aren't like adults at all.

And there's your answer. :)

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

i beg your pardon?

[Mrsjayy]

Iwell vampyre children need boundries even little adorable ones people like children but people dont want other children poking their babies in the eye, if you think its aceptable for toddlers inclucing yours to do what they like including hurting others by climbing on them or hitting them then you are doing children a diservice and allowing them to bother people but thats ok in your opinion cos they are precious and adorable

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

wtf, when have I said they don't need boundaries? I've said from the beginning that they do... I wouldn't let my children hurt babies. because I teach them boundaries.... this thread is a headfuck!

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

insane, really? what a weird comment. I think babies and toddlers are awesome. they are cute, in my opinion. okay...? when adults are annoying they are generally worse than toddlers. didn't say they were more awesome so I don't know where you got that from no doubt just 'reading between the lines' because you're so very clever.

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

only on MN could it be 'insane' to say you love kids but acceptable to 'not really like' them...

[Nomama]

Ah, but no one has said it is insane to say you love kids.

And why isn't it acceptable not to like them? Much in the same way as it is OK not to like cats, dogs, cars, televisions, sprouts....

Your opinion, that they are cute and/or awesome, isn't universal....

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

'Only on MN' is an overused phrase. - relevance?

no sorry, it's insane to say 'kids are awesome'. I think babies and toddlers are awesome by virtue of just being babies and toddlers. no-one with any common sense would take that to mean 'every child in the world is awesome'.