To want to shout at this bloody child..

[Wilberforce2]

Not sure if I'm being a bit precious but this is driving me mental.

Every Tuesday my ds does rugby 4-5 and as they are only reception and year 1 all of the parents stay. I like staying and enjoy watching him but one of the little girls of another parent is doing my head in. I have a 4 month old dd and every week this little girl does not leave her alone, constantly plays with the hood on the pram (pushing it backwards and forwards), putting her fingers in the babies mouth, kissing her on the lips, takes her toys/muslin off of her, pokes her eyes it just goes on and on. Last week this girl had a heavy cold and was constantly wiping snot around her face then walked over to dd in her pram (I dared to take my eyes off of her for a second) and stuck her fingers in her mouth, Friday my dd gets an awful cold. The mum just laughs and says "oh she is so motherly" or "she just loves babies" but I want her to tell her to leave her alone for one fricking second. Today I told the girl no a few times and had a couple of looks from the mum who then said "oh *** come over here darling I don't think you are wanted" but I can't just watch her prod and poke her for an hour, she was trying to put a pine cone in her mouth then whipped her with a muslin!

Am I being precious or would you keep telling the girl no? Little girl is 2 years old. Older brother is in my ds's class so I don't want to cause an argument.

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

mrs the hating toddlers thing was, quite obviously, a joke. I do think it's true that some people on this thread don't like children that much...

math of course the word no is involved. However, I don't feel angry with my toddlers when they are just being toddlers and pushing the boundaries as young children do. Op did not ask 'wibu to tell this child 'no'', was she?

silly I don't know why you don't understand it. I've read it back and to me, it's coherent enough.

lady I don't care why you chose your job. god knows what you mean by unusual agenda but I think it's pretty rich of you to be calling me rude... yes, children have their good points and bad points - obviously do you say all this to someone who says they don't like kids?

[ladymariner]

vampyre I think you are deliberately misinterpreting anything that you don't agree with, to suit your own unusual agenda. silly made some really good points, you didn't agree with them, fair enough but then you swear at her and query her career choice. That was just rude.

Fwiw, I also work with children and I love my job, but that doesn't mean I view every child with the same rose-coloured glasses you appear to wear. I agree with silly children are individuals, they, like all of us, have good and bad points, to say they are all 'awesome' is incredibly twee. And don't even think about questioning why I chose my job....it's none of your business tbh!

I honestly can't believe this thread is still going on, I'm agog at some of the crap things that have been written. I think we're mostly(!!) in agreement that the toddler was wrong to be poking the baby, the toddlers mother should stop her, as she didn't then the op should stop her. Which the op did. It's not rocket science.....

[Deemail]

Op you did the right thing today, good on you.

[mathanxiety]

How do you teach your children boundaries, Vampyre? Is the word No involved? If it comes to the point where a No is necessary do you consider the possible hurt feelings of the toddler before saying it?

[auntjane2]

You are quite right Wilberforce2 to stop this child treating your baby like that, and if it means a row with the mother, so be it.

[Pumpkinpositive]

It's a particular bug-bear of mine, I hate it when people call kids awesome or similar words because of how it homogenizes them. I think it really is an affront to their individuality.

Do you feel the same way when people say 'I love cats/dogs/chips'?

[Delphiniumsblue]

But she has let her InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream - that is the reason for the thread.

[Ilovenicesoap]

I don't like children much
Other peoples get on my nerves and if they had a snotty nose even worse.

Clearly Im a psychopath < shrug>

[sharonthewaspandthewineywall]

Bloody hell...dog...bone much?

[Mrsjayy]

Well wtaf are you on about people hating toddlers for vampyre for fuck sake you are ageeing with every body that kids need boundries the original post was about a toddler with none and the op eventually sent her back to her mum, and you turned it into we all hate babies and eat Toddlers for lunch jeez some folk are hard work

[Nomama]

You're probably not meant to, Sillylass!

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

'Only on MN' is an overused phrase. - relevance?

no sorry, it's insane to say 'kids are awesome'. I think babies and toddlers are awesome by virtue of just being babies and toddlers. no-one with any common sense would take that to mean 'every child in the world is awesome'.

[Nomama]

Ah, but no one has said it is insane to say you love kids.

And why isn't it acceptable not to like them? Much in the same way as it is OK not to like cats, dogs, cars, televisions, sprouts....

Your opinion, that they are cute and/or awesome, isn't universal....

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

only on MN could it be 'insane' to say you love kids but acceptable to 'not really like' them...

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

insane, really? what a weird comment. I think babies and toddlers are awesome. they are cute, in my opinion. okay...? when adults are annoying they are generally worse than toddlers. didn't say they were more awesome so I don't know where you got that from no doubt just 'reading between the lines' because you're so very clever.

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

wtf, when have I said they don't need boundaries? I've said from the beginning that they do... I wouldn't let my children hurt babies. because I teach them boundaries.... this thread is a headfuck!

[Mrsjayy]

Iwell vampyre children need boundries even little adorable ones people like children but people dont want other children poking their babies in the eye, if you think its aceptable for toddlers inclucing yours to do what they like including hurting others by climbing on them or hitting them then you are doing children a diservice and allowing them to bother people but thats ok in your opinion cos they are precious and adorable

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

i beg your pardon?

[hoobypickypicky]

"but what's not to love, young children aren't like adults at all.

And there's your answer. :)

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

and piss of with your suggestion that I don't realise they are people - I have 3. and think kids are awesome in spite of tantrums and annoying behaviour..

[VampyreofTimeandMemory]

why did you want to work with them in the first place?