To want to shout at this bloody child..

[Wilberforce2]

Not sure if I'm being a bit precious but this is driving me mental.

Every Tuesday my ds does rugby 4-5 and as they are only reception and year 1 all of the parents stay. I like staying and enjoy watching him but one of the little girls of another parent is doing my head in. I have a 4 month old dd and every week this little girl does not leave her alone, constantly plays with the hood on the pram (pushing it backwards and forwards), putting her fingers in the babies mouth, kissing her on the lips, takes her toys/muslin off of her, pokes her eyes it just goes on and on. Last week this girl had a heavy cold and was constantly wiping snot around her face then walked over to dd in her pram (I dared to take my eyes off of her for a second) and stuck her fingers in her mouth, Friday my dd gets an awful cold. The mum just laughs and says "oh she is so motherly" or "she just loves babies" but I want her to tell her to leave her alone for one fricking second. Today I told the girl no a few times and had a couple of looks from the mum who then said "oh *** come over here darling I don't think you are wanted" but I can't just watch her prod and poke her for an hour, she was trying to put a pine cone in her mouth then whipped her with a muslin!

Am I being precious or would you keep telling the girl no? Little girl is 2 years old. Older brother is in my ds's class so I don't want to cause an argument.

Willy Wonka's brand of sweets has a warning on the side of the box regarding adverse effect on behavior. I bet this two year old would find them super tasty if you left an open packet next to your baby.

Don't let some of the posts get to you - sometimes AIBU really does explode over the tiniest little non-incident, and when you're on the receiving end you can come out of it all feeling a little bruised

FWIW, you have every right to feel angry and frustrated - but this is the strange world of Mumsnet

Oh I am withdrawing the 'wet' comment, Wilberforce. The howls of indignation here have been worth every drippy moment of it!

Stay nice, and don't let this thread put you off venting in future.

Apart from anything else I want to run a book on how many weeks it'll take before fat arse lazy mum takes the hint, or gets the hump.

I am compiling snappy comebacks for you, but I need more examples of her way of speaking to make them really good

Poor Wilberforce. Who are all these people on MN who just roam around the boards looking for a fight?

And over snot? Who the hell likes snot? Especially other people's? It doesn't matter if they're two or 42, someone else's runny nose is gross. And it is normal, normal to feel protective towards one's baby. I remember when I took ds for his 6-week check-up, these little kids ran over and started touching him. Then I heard their mother saying to the receptionist, "I think they have German Measles" I can tell you I could barely breathe, but according to some on MN, I probably should have embraced the whole crew and been honoured to accept their germs.

And, furthermore, a two year old can be told off. How do they ever learn what's acceptable or not if they're never corrected?

Glad you sent her away!

As for the mother's humphing about her DD's just being "interested", that's the same kind of bullshit apologia that people offer for boundary-smashing MILs : "oh, she's just excited and you must let her steamroller you, because being "excited" in such an insensitive way gives her every right over you

OP I hate it when children have done this to my babies in the past - it is very irritating! It is the mothers' faults though - I have never allowed my children to be baby botherers.

I think a sling may be the answer as you can keep your baby out of the reach of prying little fingers!

Well done wilberforce you were not being unreasonable in your op, and you are definitely not being unreasonable now. I think you've handled it really well and if the mum doesn't like it, then tough.

I cannot believe some of the replies you've had on here, no way would I have allowed that child near my baby. One particularly indignant pp said she didn't think the little girl had done anything wrong.....well no, unless you don't happen to want your child poked, prodded, covered in the S-word, having pine cones shoved into their mouths!!! Sod that.

Does explain why some children grow up with no boundaries and no concept of how annoying other people actually find them, and the fault of that is totally with the useless, ineffectual parents.

Just found this thread and am a bit at the Thought Police. Clearly we are not allowed to ever think anything negative about anyone ever, especially toddlers, because they can't defend themselves verbally yet.

FFS. People think nasty things and SOMETIMES mention that they've thought them, on (say) an online forum where no-one can be harmed by the admission. From some of the responses here you'd have thought op regularly spends her time shouting into the faces of angelic toddlers and poking them with a stick for good measure

YA So NBU op.

Oh and bravo for standing up to LazyMum in a firm-yet-nonaggressive manner! You'll get more practice, I think.....

Well done for handling it well mums get humphy because they astounded other people dont find their children adorable and interesting meh id rather have a humphy mother than a child with a poked eye

Exactly Plump... and some of the posters here berating the OP for daring to think - abstractedly - of shouting at a child, are very vicious I their own posts elsewhere on other threads. Perhaps they've forgotten that they do that? It's hypocritical We all have things that annoy us and sometimes we post about them.

Two options - rain cover secured firmly over pram or put baby in a sling. Or just carry the baby.

Or stop the toddler bothering baby in the first place?

FFS vicious??? Really????

"Vicious"?! Actual LOL. :o

Vicious?! Perspective, please...

I didn't have you down as the delicate flower usual - it's certainly not your modus operandi.

Oh probably 'vicious'... but definitely hypocritical.

2-year old child, 80 year old woman, 45 year old banker... all the same. You're either 'Pollyan-ic' in your posting or you aren't. I don't know of a single poster who doesn't enjoy verbally slapping somebody for something now and again.

if you had a baby and a two year old came and started smacking baby round the head or started breaking things in your home would you still think "they are only two".

of course! their age and lack of understanding would doubtless be why they were doing it. but you would tell them not to, not shout at them as some on this thread have suggested is fine to do, not including the OP, for the gazillionth time.

"snot-baby" - what a pleasant comment. just 'descriptive' though, yeah?

Oh you had better believe I would shout.

Now way I'd be doing the woolly pfaff 'Oh darling, I asked you not to do that. We don't do that sweetie. No darling, we don't smash things, it's not nice'.

It would be more of a raised voice, best teachery, stern tone and a short sharp, 'stop that, NOW'.

When was there a law passed that says you can't. Or where is the gold standard research that says using vocal tone and volume doesn't work with a 2 year old?

Or is it really just a case of 'iddums, don't shout they are so little'.

*Just tell tell the kid to get lost

The snot last week was horrendous there were actual snot bubbles!

Sounds maddening and the snot is just gross.

Please may we have an emoticon displaying disgust?

That's bloody disgraceful, she comes near you or your baby today or any other day be blunt

little children who's parents don't clean their face and are covered in snot as a result are repulsive

you can push her arm away when you see it coming*

okay, fully cba to go through entire thread but these are just a few of the comments about the 2yo CHILD in question. maybe not vicious but I wouldn't have guessed anyone was discussing a toddler from this crap. and seriously, does a snotty nose on a kid warrant that many 'eww' type comments? grow up people!

shouting is bollocks, all you achieve by doing it is demonstrating that you're losing your rag. I've done it - when I've been furious. which takes more than a bloody 2yo.

But you are allowed to WANT to shout and to acknowledge that wish, surely?!

Or is there a list out there somewhere of 'Acceptable reasons for shout-level annoyance' that I've missed?

Vampyre, we're doing it again... read what I did type... no rag losing. Use of voice.... tone and volume. Just a raised voice, a shout!

I am an adult, I can shout in a controlled manner without having to fall into a conniption fit!