To think that for any parents who use this site and have DCs who will only achieve C and D grades it must be soul destroying.

[smokepole]

Fortunately my three DC will ( probably all go to university with good GCSE and A level results) . However, the vast majority of kids and surely many parents on here have children , who will not achieve 'great results'. The parents must feel that they as well as their children have failed. The 'constant' discussions on Oxbridge/ RG universities must make these parents feel like they are living in a parallel universe. The vast majority of kids will not go to either of these institutions , 'modest' or normal universities are continually disregarded on Mumsnet ,( though for many kids, even these universities are unattainable).

I just want to send some support out to those parents and their DC. I want to let them know that despite 'average' results , they can still achieve great things , with or without great exam results.

I've had the crappiest day but reading this thread, a giggle escaped. So, thank you, OP.

My sympathies are with the parents of average kids, must be so hard.

What a ridiculous statement op! We all just cope with the cards we are dealt. I've got one daughter who has just gained a doctorate and another who has just presented me with a gorgeous granddaughter - both equally valued and loved and I'm certain they have worked equally hard. The world has space enough for us all regardless of whether we have hit Gove's targets or not.

Bless you op

I bet it took you ages to work out how to say that tactfully

Epic fail

OP step away from the thread.
Go in the corner and have a serious word with yourself.

The next time you think to yourself 'Ooo I know I will post how I feel sorry for all the uneducated minions and that their children are thick as pig shit and mine are smarty pants. I must remember to add that they shouldn't worry cos they will get nice jobs somewhere even without a degree'.
Tie your hands together and step away from the lap top. You're an idiot.

Come on people - surely the OP is on a wind-up?

I don't think it's a wind up, but unwittingly patronising ( and, i think based on the false premise that people on here do go on about RG Universities)

BUT

Pag

i see your dancing family and raise you 4 people with excellently thick hair

I don't know why this post has upset people, nor why previous posts have.

I think my posting has been misread. I am in no way having a laugh at average kids nor is my post a 'wind up'( maybe I have miss phrased and the correct meaning of my post misunderstood.

Silver Lining . Was it Blair who said Education ,Education, Education.. What does NC mean ?

If just one of my DCs get to university , they will be the first in either my or DHs family(excluding Nieces). I hear or read all the time how most university students are either offspring of graduates , or have been privately educated. I also hear that the universities want 'first generation' students to change the social and culture mix.

I am so proud of my 2 DDs and DS and will be whatever they achieve either academically or though-out their lives. I have not put any pressure on any of them to go to university ( although its an opportunity and experience that was unavailable to me). The university DD1 is hoping for is not a Russell Group one either.. If DD2 and DS end up with C grades at GCSE I will be disappointed but I would tell them, that its not the end of the world.

Me I've got one who's supposedly very clever and will probably get cocky and muck it up, and one who's a plodder and will probably do better than expected. Neither of them has the faintest desire to go to Oxbridge. Am I average?

Maybe you should read your op again smokepole, as if someone else had written it. And then see what you think.

A C grade is a pass for Christ's sake. Your tone is boastful, arrogant and patronising. YOU may not realise why your posts are upsetting, but everyone is telling you they are, so accept it and apologise

nc= name change.

And I'm not sure Tony Blair is the best source to be quoting right now...

Personally I think careers and nurses etc should earn more than footballers and bankers....

Nursing is actually a degree entry profession.

That aside, I think the general assumption that academic achievements are the most important measure of a person is just as damaging as the assumption that salary is the most deciding factor of whether you have 'achieved' as an adult.

I love this...
I have a very intelligent child, an average child and a child with SN.
However we all dance quite magnificently.

I meant that in a non high paying job sake usual

As in they both worked just as hard yet one earns £30k and the other £15k. If it was all about intelligence the highest paid would be the most intelligent but that's not often the case.

No, I don't agree at all. I have seen some discussions about different uni's and things but personally its not what its cracked up to be, Both myself and DH went into further education after school, he has an honours degree and I have the equivalent of a 3rd year degree and neither of us put ours to any use.

He has 10,000 debt and I have 5,500 debt for nothing really and we are both happy with the way our lives have turned out.

My oldest wants to leave school asap and be a farrier so that's what he will probably do and I support him on whatever path he chooses, so long as he is happy.

dear Op I do not need your support
my dc's are well adjusted adults who may not have wonderful exam results
but are "good people"
imo worth more than a exam result

Inspace. C grades are better than what I achieved. however, as DD2 s predictions are either A*or A coming to the end of year 10, C grades would be disappointing ( what's wrong with saying that). DS is year 8 (so who knows) but entered senior school with level 6 in Maths and English . As for smugness,well I am sure every single poster on here has better academic qualifications then me so I am not smug.

The reason I used Tony Blair as an example was meant as a bit of fun or irony. I have not name changed, I read something similar on a post about Jacob the 'pie thrower' Dowdle.

How do you define success , because the people I know who have the greatest material lives have the least academic qualifications. I also know academic people who have been successful in their fields, both these groups of people have been equally successful. The academics could not have achieved the way the entrepreneurs have and vice versa.

Fortunately for me my DC are very good looking. I've noticed many, many MNetters also have cute/gorgeous DC. But in RL not all children are so beautiful. I would like to offer support to MNetters with average looking DC.

I think the OP does not realise(bless) that exam results do not make their dc's good people
I think we should all feel sympathy for her as she is deluded

smokepole - how can your child be at secondary modern? They were phased out over 20 years ago weren't they?

wobblyweebles - no, not in some areas. Those with y'know, the grammar schools we all (ahem) love so much. I come from South Lincs and it's still grammar/sec mods there.

Haha. I have three DCs. One academically average, one academically brilliant & one academically below par (SN).

Do you want to know which one has the brightest mind? Yes, it's the DS with Aspergers who will be doing fabulously well to get D's in his GCSE's this summer.

My SIL didn't even sit her O Levels. She is a Solicitor now. Yes, that's unusual and yes, it took her years of 'catch up' learning to get there but it clearly shows that a lack of O Levels/GCSE's does not necessarily mean you lack intelligence!

University does not guarantee your DC will go on to do great things. I'm in Canada so the system is different, but I got straight As through primary and secondary and graduated cum laude from university and am currently working as a law clerk making pretty dire money.

My brother barely scraped through secondary school and did not go to college or university. Through hard work, he is now the Vice-President of Operations for a major shipping company and earning well over the $100,000 mark.

Fortunately for me my DC are very good looking. I've noticed many, many MNetters also have cute/gorgeous DC. But in RL not all children are so beautiful. I would like to offer support to MNetters with average looking DC.

We should start a support group for all these poor MNers with ugly, stupid children. My DD is just so beautiful and smart (putting her pacifier back in her mouth at 10 weeks is pretty smart, right??), I feel sorry for them.

I also feel sorry for all the MNers that don't have gorgeous boobs like me or a handsome DH that's good at sex.

I just want you all to know, I offer you my support MNers. You poor under privileged things.