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To think the School overreacted in Expelling Pupil and calling Police for a stunt,when a "bollocking would have been enough".

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smokepole · 28/05/2014 09:57

Jacob Dowdle, a year 13 Pupil at Altrincham Grammar school on the last day of term May 16, put a paper plate with whipped cream in to his year heads face.

This was a very "Stupid" thing to do, but no harm was meant or injury caused yet the school called the Police and summary expelled him. The teacher was seeking a prosecution for the stunt, when she was not injured The teacher although upset , should have had the grace to except that it was a poor stunt , ( or like most teachers on the last day taken it on the chin as overexcited students behaviour).

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/06/2014 19:43

Rate my teachers - you just have to ignore it

I intend to, sovery; in fact I feel grubby just for looking at it

I can't help wondering, though, who's behind ugliness like that - maybe someone who was sent out of class once too often as a kid and never quite got over it Wink

LizzieVereker · 01/06/2014 20:02

As an aside, I once worked for a HT who insisted teachers look at the comments about them on RMT and "take them on board". Sad

Suffolk I thought your comments were spot on. I hope they are allowed to stand. (I doubt it emoticon).

I just wanted to say that if the teacher has access to this thread, I wish her strength for her return to school tomorrow. She shouldn't need it, but I know how it feels to return to work after an incident like this, it's very stressful. I hope she can feel the weight of all our support behind her, and I'll be thinking of her in the morning.

SuburbanRhonda · 01/06/2014 20:03

I'd happily do "something different" to that arsehole.

You might have to form an orderly queue, lurid

Smile
SuburbanRhonda · 01/06/2014 20:06

I can't help wondering, though, who's behind ugliness like that - maybe someone who was sent out of class once too often as a kid and never quite got over it

I think we know someone like that, don't we, children? Wink

SnapeAndLily · 01/06/2014 20:07

I'm the first commenter. Interesting to know I'm "in danger of becoming a bully." It's the only comment I have made to him (I'm not on Twitter), and I'm fairly sure the definition of bullying involves frequency (or STOP - Several Times On Purpose as we say at our school Grin). I don't think I said anything that wasn't factual Hmm

ilovesooty · 01/06/2014 20:11

And as for "his life has been shattered"...

Give me strength.

smokepole · 01/06/2014 20:18

I have it on good authority, that his agent is in talks with ITV about going in to the Jungle in the next series of Im a Celebrity . He is also in talks with Channel 4 about a series called, Dowdle Dares where every week school kids from around the U.K, send in their videos of humiliated teachers and the winner each week , gets their teacher smacked in the face each week in front of a live studio audience of school kids.

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smokepole · 01/06/2014 20:21

you heard, Stu Francis Catchphrase "I could crush a Grape" . His is

" I Could Smack a Teacher".

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SuburbanRhonda · 01/06/2014 20:41

snape, Lawrence Jones seems to exist in his own bubble.

If he says you're in danger of becoming a bully, it must be true because he said it. This is one of life's true dilemmas, engage with him and risk losing your sanity, or ignore him and make him think we've all retreated in the fact of his right-ness.

SuburbanRhonda · 01/06/2014 20:42

face, not fact

SnapeAndLily · 01/06/2014 20:56

Well, so much of what he had written was total arse-guff anyway, I can't be bothered to take the bait Grin

His constant reference to his female employees as 'girls' made my hackles rise, as well as saying that the teacher needed to get her self respect back. What a completely misguided fool.

Bluestocking · 01/06/2014 21:01

LJ does seem to have a very robust Reality Distortion Filter. I wonder what he would think if one of his junior employees "pranked" his lady wife by smacking her in the face.

SnowinBerlin · 01/06/2014 22:32

So basically Jacob is going to be Gareth Keenan to Lawrence's David Brent.

SuburbanRhonda · 01/06/2014 22:52

Or more likely, Stella English to Lawrence's Lord Sugar Grin

pianodoodle · 01/06/2014 23:24

Teachers need to focus on real issues

If all the Jacob Dowdles weren't busy wasting their time it might be easier.

SuburbanRhonda · 02/06/2014 08:02

Quite, piano.

And maybe LJ needs to focus on his "business" and not wade into a situation he has made clear he doesn't understand the nuances of.

vindscreenviper · 02/06/2014 08:26

One of his employees has left a comment now, Mr Jones' contribution to education has made a positive impact on thousands of children. So there.
Oh, and more'inspirational' anecdote guff, this one's about footballers and starts like Thought of the Day, "As we build up to the World Cup I found myself reading about..."

Alan Partridge levels of self awareness being shown on that blog by LJ and his cheerleader. Grin

LineRunner · 02/06/2014 08:37

How do you 'find yourself' reading about something? He makes it sound like an accident.

Maybe it was.

Pumpkinpositive · 02/06/2014 08:44

Smokepole, you've changed your tune! Grin

SuburbanRhonda · 02/06/2014 09:35

Jacob Dowdle must be delighted that the focus is now on LJ instead of on him.

He (Dowdle) can now carry on being the immature pillock he has shown himself to be, safe in the knowledge that LJ has stepped up to take the bullet for him.

You couldn't make it up.

pianodoodle · 02/06/2014 11:09

LJ is entirely self serving. Jacob Dowdle will soon be of no further use to him.

Maybe a bit like this...

"JONES
That's the kind of man I need on my team, Smithers. A real scrapper. Bring this Dowdle fellow to me. I want to make him my Executive Vice President.

SMITHERS
Yes, Sir.

(The next day...)

JONES
Smithers, I've just seen the most heroic dog on television. Find this dog. I want to make him my Executive Vice President.

SMITHERS
Uh, yes sir. In the meantime, here's Jacob Dowdle. (Jones stares blankly.) The "courageous" student?

JONES
What? Oh, yes, that fellow. Mmm, put him somewhere out of the way... and find that dog!"

merrymouse · 02/06/2014 14:18

Jobs that can be offered that quickly are generally high turnover, and either low skill or commission based. It's just a PR stunt.

Agree, Jacob Dowdle chose to take the incident outside the school sphere when he put the video on-line. Getting to 18 and not being aware of the risks of social media implies a low level of intelligence, not a go getting fun attitude.

AndyYorkeSingsBetterThanThom · 02/06/2014 14:40

I have been the teacher victim of a planned assault by a group of secondary pupils (they did it to a few staff) and the school a) wouldn't listen and b) the school covered it up. I had to tell them I would 'sue their fucking arses off' before they would even take it seriously. At that point the headteacher offered me a lift home, which I declined, so school paid for a taxi.

AndyYorkeSingsBetterThanThom · 02/06/2014 14:40

And my point, which I forgot to mention, is that secondary school pupils can be quite malicious.

SuburbanRhonda · 02/06/2014 19:12

I think secondary school teachers should get some kind of award if they manage to stay in the job for five years Grin

piano, I bet that's exactly how it'll go. Fits in very well with LJ's God complex.