to wonder if UKIP is doing some kind od stealth campaign via mumsnet?

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Sorry this is a thread about threads...just seems to me there is something weird going on.....

Oh no you are not allowed to imply any racism, bigotry or xenophobia, not even a teensy weensy bit because it hurts UKIP voters' feelings and they'll get cross and vote in someone even worse than farridge

Ubik

Hopefully that won't be the relaxed attitude of piss taking from the main parties or we are in huge trouble.

Hopefully that won't be the relaxed attitude of piss taking from the main parties or we are in huge trouble.

Do all the MN is anti-Tory people not remember the last general election?? A million and one 'thinking of voting Tory threads' plus all the 'think lib dems might finally clinch it's ones.

MN is pretty floating voter... (though I would agree it normally leans centre left compared to other spaces)

I would agree mumsnet is generally centre left although of course people often lie about who they actually do vote for as they are afraid to admit it.

Remember the shock labour exit polls and the defeat of Neil kinnock.

I think people lie especially when a party is as controversial as UKIP do that's why the main parties need to really address the swing.

So today Scotland's UKIP MEP was reported as being asked what was so terrible about the EU and he replied 'lots of things but I can't recall any right now'

Perhaps they should have asked about immigration instead...

I know - he really didn't do himself any favours did he?

That being said, there aren't many politicians who are doing themselves many favours atm...

'lots of things but I can't recall any right now'

Ouch. Oh I actually feel sorry for him. Maybe he was hungover

but the ukip party membership are woefully unprepared for any kind of leadership

it has all happened so fast there is just no system in place

look at how they were simply unable to vet their candidates.

Woefully unprepared & woefully underskilled

yes indeed

but the ukip party membership are woefully unprepared for any kind of leadership

Well they will have to upskill and coordiante fast if they are hoping to be anything other than a flash in the pan. I just can't see that all this "charming" bumbling and having people shooting off message left right and centre has much of a shelf-life for a serious, seat-holding, party.

I don't know - Boris has made a very long, successful career out of charming bumbling

They might appear disorganised and under/un prepared, but if the will and the support is there -and continues to be there, which I think is perfectly possible unless the other parties get to grips with the issues that people feel UKIP are going to address - then I can easily see them becoming one of the mainstream parties.

I'm extremely worried about the prospect of leaving the EU. It has kept the peace. There are still extremely volatile countries in Europe. I would really worry about the economy.

Don't like to think of Britain as this sad little protectionist island, being run by public school boys and men with vague notions about beer, fags and women at home cooking their dinner.

I think the only issue that had chimed with the public is immigration.

The reality of leaving the EU is lost

Presumably even Boris's left hand has a hint what his right hand might do next SirCh

...I agree. That doesn't mean that the status quo re the EU is an viable option though.

Bog I totally agree but to be honest on Fiderlines point re them being bumbling and unprepared (agree again) what worries me more is the bumbling from Ed and Nick.

They look she'll shocked. Cameron on the other hand looks far more in his stride.

Cameron will absorb UKIP supporters to gain a majority next election if the others don't get their fingers out if their arses and do something.

There are many people who would rather admire Fareage having a pint and a fag rather than an unknown young labour pm telling them they shouldn't be racist and immigration is good for the country!

I detest Farrage but he has hit a nerve and people like my parents, life long labour voters, think he has a point.

Labour need to act desicivly.

I'm not always convinced Fideline

Perhaps our apparent love of all things charming and bumbling is simply a reaction to the bland, corporate image of our current politicians...?

Boris made me laugh though with his comment to the lib dems, go back to your constituencies and prepare your breakfast

Boris pretends to be stupid and he really isn't. Farrage is a chancer but needs watching.

Perhaps not

But I do not see any discussion of a way forward from UKIP. None at all. Just some woolly ideas about a 1950's utopian Britain - which never existed but seems to be situated somewhere between Call the Midwife and Downton Abbey - and some rather nasty campaigning about immigrants taking jobs which would have done Nick Griffin proud.

I'm sure the papers are digging furiously for any skeletons in Farage's closet. Hard to imagine he doesn't have any.

Yes, UKIP want to retreat to a utopian 1950's England that never even existed.

Warm beer, cricket on the village green, police constables who knew your name, no pesky women getting pregnant and demanding maternity leave.