to be absolutely overjoyed with this!

[herecomesthesunlala]

It is over 100 years since a national election has been won by a party other than the Conservatives and Labour.

What's more the UK Independence Party did it by winning seats not just in every region of England but in Wales and Scotland too!

UKIP opinions are the majority - FACT!

Is that you, Nigel?

English
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adjective
1.
relating to England or its people or language.
noun
1.
the language of England, now widely used in many varieties throughout the world.
2.
the people of England.

So if you are (random voter is) British, and you (they) were born in England, how precisely are you (they) not English?

So why did you tell MrsDeVere that her children's 'Englishness' depended on their colour?

Ok so we can stop talking about 'English' people now? And you can explain your problem with overseas immigration to us?

I brought up the point about the London 2011 census (where UKIP support differed to the rest of the UK) to highlight how many British people in this region are immigrants and therefore had different political interests etc. That was all.

Is that you, Nigel ...if it is he's pissed ...again

So why did you tell MrsDeVere that her children's 'Englishness' depended on their colour?

Gosh - I missed that gem.

So why did you tell MrsDeVere that her children's 'Englishness' depended on their colour?

Because if the are black they would have heritige from somewhere else other then english wouldn't they?

Immigrants born in England? so English then?

also UKIP go no seats in the North West

Give over.
You are horrified at all the non white Britons and you don't think someone is properly English unless both their parents are white.

So that makes you a .........

'Because if the are black they would have heritige from somewhere else other then english wouldn't they?'

No you dimwit. It means they are English of West Indian heritage. Just as many thousands of people are English with Indian/Pakistani/Cypriot/Irish/etc. etc. heritage.

I don't think anybody on this thread had to justify themselves to you OP. I'd have voted for The Farting On The Moon Party in preference to UKIP.

Herecomesthesunlala YOU have heritage from somewhere else dear ...you are not English - NO ONE IS

STILL just as English as you.

I don't consider someone fully Spanish if their dad is from Ukraine either, it's biological sense surely

Can some please give me a guide on how I can work out what I am because I am seriously confused now. From my calculations I belong no where and will be seriously fucked if I ever get sent back to 'where I came from'

If it gets to that point can I live in the cupboard?

Myfeetarecold - me too. And yet sadly round us it is apparently socially acceptable to put up UKIP posters (including, incredibly, one house which had a UKIP poster attached to their For Sale sign )

I love where we live but that makes me very very sad, as does the fact that I had to explain to DS why UKIP party election broadcasts were not only nonsense but dangerous nonsense.

Because if the are black they would have heritige from somewhere else other then english wouldn't they?

Don't you?

Have heritige somewhere else other from english?

Or are you like Griffin who can apparently trace his ancestry back 17 thousand years?

OP how about you stop telling other people what ethnicity their DC are tell us why you think we need UKIP to save us. And what we need saving from.

Because if the are black they would have heritige from somewhere else other then english wouldn't they?

MrsDVs husband is English. MrsDV is English.

Their children are English. Their colour is irrelevant.

You are a stinking racist and I claim my prize.

I don't consider someone fully Spanish if their dad is from Ukraine either, it's biological sense surely

My DC's dad is from England.

So are they English?

Actually OP, many people in NI do not accept their British citizenship, and only identify as Irish (which is fine as they have dual nationality).

Everybody here understands that British and English are not the same, but you seem to have a very specific definition of English which rejects all immigration. I think people were trying to get to the bottom of that - I know I was.

Also, it is good to know that you would deport people based on them not agreeing with you - good thing UKIP aren't extremists, eh?

@ Binky

Anyone noticed that blog of the day has a picture of To Kill a Mocking Bird? over there --->

You can be white and have non English heritage and get this you can have a black ancestor and still appear white.

Secondly if you're born in England to English parents and grandparents but you had Great Grandparents born elsewhere. Then guess what you'd still be English. I think it would surprise you just how many English people have at least 1 ancestor born elsewhere. Where do you draw the line? At how many greats?