To think this is starting to look like UKIP revolution

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and apparently similar results across Europe.

Front Nationale have done particularly well in France. Guardian is reporting similar successes for far right parties in Greece and Denmark.

I am unnerved.

I think you're right fanj. If I were in Scotland, I'd probably vote for independence on the basis of these results. Suspect that DSis and BIL will do just that.

And the prospect of losing Scotland frightens me all the more. We'll be stuck with UKIP and the Tories forever. :(

And the prospect of losing Scotland frightens me all the more. We'll be stuck with UKIP and the Tories forever.

It's the most worrying angle yet tonight actually.

What's the holdup in the western isles?

Everything is laid back there

They will be SNP though.
Sorry..didn't mean to worry people.

Western Isles aren't announcing till midday as they don't count on a Sunday

Fidel, yeah (you can tell we're election obsessives - it's fucking 3 fucking am!) The Conservatives and the far right, who aren't one and the same thing, did whip up the rhetoric. Is your neighbour brown? Stealing from you. Is your neighbour poor? Stealing from you. How many kids does your neighbour have? That many? Stealing from you. Does your neighbour claim benefits? Stealing from you... Never mind the Big Society, we were basically told that we had to clutch our money close to our chests because everyone we lived amongst was trying to nick it. A better recipe for a fractured society and the rise of the far right couldn't be imagined.

FanjoFor, we live in the same country - vote Yes! What have we got to lose? Nothing's going to improve with a No, everything, however, is likely to get worse with one. We won't be nestled in the bosom of Westminster and given cuddles and promises. We'll be given a good kicking for being uppity enough to hold a referendum in the first place. Look at the record, what have we to lose?

Everything is laid back there

Lucky them, everywhere else will be jabbering tomorrow

you can tell we're election obsessives - it's fucking 3 fucking am!

I know, it's an illness

Anyway, I'm away to my bed now (as you guys say)

This is so depressing and so scary.

Time for me to sleep now too. What a depressing night!

Am not an election obsessive..DD is a being awake obsessive. Erk..working in 5 hours.

History repeating itself. Very scared here.

Och, I'm away too :D It's stupid o'clock and I've been up half the night arguing with the Nats about why they lost a seat. God bless them but seriously. Still waiting on the Western Isles, but they take their time with such things. As pointed out, we will take a while to hear from them but it won't change much.

I would go with, in Scotland, "unusual but not game-changing". Down South, dinnae ken. I am going to go to sleep and dream happily of a Scottish Socialist Republic made up of workers' councils, and then wake up to find we have a UKIP MEP and my mum's coming round for dinner. Oh well, come the revolution.

This has sent a shiver down my spine. I moved away from the UK a couple of years ago and the thought of going back just seems so remote now.

It's terrifying and depressing. At least they didn't win in London, but that's small consolation.

They did win one of the London seats in Europe. I think people have had enough of the main party bullshit to be honest. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in Cameron/Milliband/Clegg hq today.

That's democracy.

I suspect that after four years of watching UKIP MEPs freeloading off the expenses system the voters will become somewhat disillusioned.

I mean - I wonder how big a bunch of us trying to migrate to Scotland would cause a problem?

I guess when schools start to fill to beyond bursting, people cannot get their dc into schools, maternity wards start to fail, housing becomes a huge issue and they have to start building in the highlands....they might have to intruduce a systme

At this rate the Welsh and Cornish will swiftly be granted independence just to slow down & divert some of the swathes of English trying to get over the Scottish border in the New Year. I hear house prices are cheap and schools are good in NI? Are reinforcements to Hadrian's Wall planned to stop the middle-class influx into Scotland?

All joking aside I see the probability of civil disorder on a far more serious scale than we had in 2011 in most major English cities within a few years unless the political class introduces some much needed accountability to the electorate as a matter of urgency.

The 3 major parties all seem absolutely determined to ignore the needs and wishes of the people they are supposed to be representing in favour of their corporate puppet masters. From welfare for banksters, to expenses scandals to being constantly dragged into (and being forced to pay for!) illegitimate warmongering, right through to house price gerrymandering it's hard to see any small shoots of hope in the current system.

I'm at the point where I'm beginning to think they WANT to see the molotov's fly. It's a large part of the reason I cannot understand why London house prices are rising so much - in my eyes it's time to get out before it all kicks off.

Most revolutions sadly end in tears, but a revolution of sorts is where we are heading.

This UKIP vote is British civil disorder; the silent majority don't generally take to the streets and build barricades but are quite good at making their voice heard, when pushed too far. The three main political parties realise this. Of course, whether they will act upon it is debatable; at the moment they are 'hearing what you say', but whether they will actually listen remains to be seen.

I'm in Scotland. I wasn't sure about the independence referendum but have decided to vote Yes on the back of those results last night.

at the moment they are 'hearing what you say', but whether they will actually listen remains to be
Labour Guy Chucka? Was on BBC this morning saying he didnt believe it was dissatisfaction witj EU but a general dissatisfaction!

I saw that razzle. I literally faceplamed.. They really do not get the level of dissatisfaction among the electorate and are still brushing it away as a 'silly little protest' that will go away when the real elections come around. I cant believe their sheer arrogance and complacency. Do they really want to continue patronising the electorate this way, they are handing UKIP voters.

33% turn out is effectively a public declaration that "none of the above are fit to govern".

Instead of humbly taking the message on board from the silent majority of 77% who could not bring themselves to endorse ANY candidate, all the major parties are continuing their stupid game playing.

The silly finger pointing and spite game that has so turned the public off is being directed at UKIP instead of immigrants or the disabled or single Mums or the unemployed this week. Blind arrogance? Missing the point much?

Regardless of how you feel about the different parties, this is democracy in action. Perhaps if the ruling elite (in all countries) had listened to the concerns of the electorate it would not have come to this.