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Original poster

to take my DD out of end of the year production in Y6???

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katmat3 · 20/05/2014 16:28

Please tell me because lately I am not thinking with clear head.
My DD is not chosen again for any part ( except singing and dancing with few other kids) . It's not the first time and maybe my pregnancy hormones are working but it's something that is happening all the time. I am aware as other few parents are that headmistress has certain kids that she always puts up as a frontrunners for everything ..But for everything all the time??? Really???I am talking about last 3 years.
Same kids,same main parts.I am gutted for my DD. I am not bragging but she is really good ,confident,very committed to her work or any given task but she just has bad luck.
This production is for Y6 mainly and she actually doesn't have any part.I signed the letter for her to give tomorrow that she will not participate (only one probably) but I can't let her always be in the corner while the SAME kids are always doing the parts...
AIBU???Please.
If I missed anything I will add....

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WelshBlackbird · 21/05/2014 18:59

Just sit through the performance with gritted teeth OP and clap when your dd has finished. You can give a standing ovation if you want to? Its what we all have to do at some point :) But then there is nothing to say you HAVE to buy a ticket to watch other peoples misfits perform. Its up to you really x

WelshBlackbird · 21/05/2014 19:03

Please OP can you reply to my question - Which two parts do the 'leads' have to perform in The Lion King?? I am well and truly baffled!

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 21/05/2014 19:16

Your dd has taken L6 SATs early, she does competitive maths and spellings, she does other competitive sports but you have no confidence in the head over a school play?!?!

As I said many many pages ago it sounds like she has done brilliantly at primary school. Why does the play matter to you so much?

Enjoy her (many) achievements and let her leave primary school on a high.

Pagwatch · 21/05/2014 19:28

You have lost trust in the head, the teachers, the school system and fairness? Because of a school play?

moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 19:30

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 19:39

WB--it's adapted version and two parts combined.I don't have script but she told me about one of them is going to be Nala (young and old) and then later on Tatiana (hmm some important meerkat daughter),another one is another girl playing Rafiki and old lady for the second part and third one is a reader and Mufasa.(not sure about spellings).
Then rest of the "usual" group are rest of the main characters---Simba's mum,Zazu,Timon and Pumba,7 hyenas etc ..I don't know all the parts because it'a adapted play.Not sure is that good enough....They put some extra parts (3 locals..)

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 19:42

MOTYK---I am trying to be very positive and happy ,I am but it will take me some time to relax.....Life is unfair and only things I can teach her is to be the best she can in anything she does and not everything is fair but we need to get on with life.......

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JodieGarberJacob · 21/05/2014 19:53

I suppose you do know for a fact it's only 5 children without a part? Would it be easier to bear if it turns out that there are 20 without parts?

Picturesinthefirelight · 21/05/2014 19:54

It's an illegal production them as its not available for performance in the UK. There was a pilot last year but I'm fairly sure it's not out yet.

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 19:58

I will close this thread ,thank you all for input and I will just get on with it as any other parent.Thank you so much all for your advices.
katmat3

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Icimoi · 21/05/2014 20:13

Sometimes you can comfort yourself with the thought that it's their loss. My ds was one of the overlooked for years till the Y6 production, when they finally gave him and his friend a small scene together. I can honestly say that they stole the show - and it's not just my bias, it was evidenced by the applause and what people were saying afterwards. A couple of the teachers had the grace to admit that they wished they'd discovered his talents earlier.

moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 20:20

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Picturesinthefirelight · 21/05/2014 20:22

It certainly wasn't out the year before last when I emailed Josef Weinberger to ask.

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 20:26

It's not LK as such but that type of the play IYSWIM.
I asked MN to close thread.It's just making me more upset and I can't deal with it through my pregnancy.
It's just made sad---that was the point of it nothing else.
I wont be coming here any more .
Thank you

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 20:27

Ps
How do I ask for the thread to be deleted please?
Thank you...

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Picturesinthefirelight · 21/05/2014 20:30

While threads are only deleted in very specific circumstances which I doubt apply in this thread.

So us it or isn't it based on Lion King? If it uses any of the characters, names or music it's not allowed.

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katmat3 · 21/05/2014 20:36

No it doesn't use same names ,as I said it's different but story to me it's something like that,that's why for me it's LK even though it's not actually IYSWIM?
But saying that---I need to relax and be proud of her high academic achievements and focus on her secondary school.
I hope the transition wont be as difficult because she is at the moment in a very small school....

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moldingsunbeams · 21/05/2014 20:45

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Montegomongoose · 21/05/2014 21:38

It's all such bollocks. Whineyarse bollocks

This should be on T-shirts for anyone who comes moaning about this kind of thing.

Seriously, what messages do you tho k you are sending your kids by whining to the poor teachers when you don't think they're getting enough exposure?

MissLurkalot · 21/05/2014 22:23

Nicely done....!!!!
Stop hounding the poor woman. Seriously, some of you really need to look at yourselves.

EvilTwins · 21/05/2014 22:40

pictures - I think a lot of primaries do illegal Yr 6 plays. My nieces' school has done Beauty & the Beast and Chitty in recent years and I know they haven't done it properly and paid for the rights. Lots of kids I teach at secondary have done things like Grease and HSM but, again their "own versions" Not great really, though I can see why the schools think they can get away with it.

manicinsomniac · 21/05/2014 23:49

yes,pictures, being illegal is one of the only way to satisfy parents as I mentioned somewhere earlier on.

We spend thousands of pounds on our biggest annual production (incl proper performance rights) but it's still illegal - for the sake of the children (and parents!!). I have squeezed around 40-45 speaking parts out of Sound of Music, Oliver, Grease, Footloose and the like. Most of these shows have around 20-25 speaking parts officially. I have also rewritten bits of shows to make them age appropriate, added songs from film versions that aren't in the stage show, written in new scenes to get more children on stage, cut songs that are too difficult, rearranged harmonies that are written for voices that have broken and made various other changes for various reasons. It's really difficult to do school drama strictly by the book. I've even had to make fake programmes to send to the license holders before to hide the fact that we had so many non existent parts in their show Blush I know it's awful.

Picturesinthefirelight · 22/05/2014 00:10

And still the complaints come.

We're doing Alice at the moment. It's about as an ensemble based piece as you're ever going to get. Alice is double cast, there is also younger Alice & some of Leeis Carrolls lines have been given to an unnamed singingvsolustvto create an extra narration part of grown up Alice.

Still got complaints from the parents of the smaller speaking roles though.

saintlyjimjams · 22/05/2014 00:16

One of my kids acts - it's his thing, he wants to go to drama school & has done quite a lot of professional acting now. He also takes acting exams & practices performance related activities for about 7 hours a week outside school & does extra in school holidays.

If he suits a main part (& he's done enough acting to know that casting a part also depends on a look) I don't see why he shouldn't get it. He's never going to get into a sports team, or the maths challenge team & doesn't get sulky when he doesn't get those.

annielouise · 22/05/2014 06:40

saintlyjimjams - so by that token do you expect him to have the main part every year or should someone else get a go? After all it's not his show, it's the year 6 show, no? That's all the OP is saying. That's not being a whineyarse. What a sneery phrase. Typical mumsnet. The usual superior talk about teachers laughing at parents behind their backs if they so much think anything like this never mind dare bring something like this up to them. Most parents won't bring it up but I know they talk about it amongst themselves and do a little eye-rolling.

So many still missing the point - she's not upset her daughter doesn't have the main part, or a big part, she's upset she's one of 5 that have nothing and have had nothing year in year out while the same faces have the big parts 3 years in a row. Kids no more competent no matter I'm sure what their parents think or say. She wants her child to be more included. A couple of teachers have even said it's laziness on behalf of teachers to choose the same faces time and again and to go and speak to the HT. I think it's great the teachers that have come on here to say they've rewritten plays etc to try and include more.

All those saying my child has done years of singing/dancing/acting outside of school and lives for that so why shouldn't he or she get the main part - do you really think it should be about them every year? It's not the Sophie/Chloe/Ellie show, it's a year 6 show that should be more inclusive. And no I don't care how good you think your child is I'd rather see some quiet ones given a chance and unless you're the parent no one wants to see the same ones up there because they're never as great as the parents think in primary, secondary, yes, I've been more blown away. I think I'd be embarrassed for my child to be favoured in such a way with fantastic parts year in and year out even if they were great (in my eyes) and would tell the teachers to give someone else a go.

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