To ask those of you who are pro life?

[Anonynony]

How do you feel about friends who have had abortions? Can you maintain friendships with people who have had an abortion and no regrets?

One of my friends has stunned me, talking about another friend of ours who had considered an abortion and my friend said I'm so glad she didn't because I wouldn't have been able to stay friends with her
I'm really surprised, I'm extremely pro choice and vocal about it but this doesn't bother my friend.
But what my friend doesn't know is that I also had an abortion and although I have no regrets I feel a bit strange around my friend now?

No you misunderstand, she is choosing a late abortion and all that entails. No one is forcing a late abortion on her.

I'm anti-abortion, but it still wouldn't stop me being friends with her. People are made up of far more than one choice they make. I'm sure lots of vegans are friends with carnivores like me without it making them 'less-vegan'.

Tondelayo, the majority of abortions aren't carried out on 13 year old rape victims but they always make an appearance on these threads too.

Forcing a woman to give birth to a live/dying/dead baby when she did not want to is wrong.

There aren't any women who use abortions as birth control, Birds, outside of some Catholic countries. And they do attempt birth control, it's just that reliable methods are unavailable to them.

If you're counting the MAP, I think it's fairly common for women to use it if they have any doubt at all about the efficacy of their protection on a given day. I've got no problem with that.

Friggin, the point is that 'all that entails' includes giving birth.

No the point is choice.

"Forcing a woman to give birth to a live/dying/dead baby when she did not want to is wrong." So what do you expect to do if she wants a late term abortion? Where do you think the foetus goes?

"There aren't any women who use abortions as birth control"

I think you'll find you're wrong there. Some people up thread have already mentioned people that they know who have done this.

The point about forced birth is simple. If you would deny a woman an abortion at any stage of the pregnancy then by default you will force them to give birth. If someone choses to have a late abortion then giving birth will be an unavoidable consequence of that but at least they are going into that with choice. Most people don't have late abortions anyway, so forced birth would become a reality if women were denied abortions.

I am not going to engage with you bumbly because you and I have been on threads similar to this before where you took my points and somehow warped them in your mind to think I was agreeing with you. I don't wish to play that same game again. I am pro choice to term. End of.

How does a late term abortion = giving birth? I'm stumped there.

Tondelayo, the majority of abortions aren't carried out on 13 year old rape victims but they always make an appearance on these threads too.

You brought up 13 year old rape victims - no-one else did. The only other person who mentioned rape was someone who couldn't support someone through an abortion unless they had been raped.

I am not going to engage with bumble any more either. My choice.

I fear I don't quite believe it, bumbley. Birds' friend, who she says has 'emotional issues', maybe. And possibly better than way than a battalion of DC raised alongside said 'emotional issues'.

I'd be curious to know how many abortions Antiabs's friend had, and why she wasn't using any other method (if she wasn't.)

Tondelayo, where do you think the foetus goes when someone has a late term abortion?

Agree LtEve and Garlic

Bumbly well you did. And let's face it, if men could carry a child these debates would be either very different or non existent.

Woman's right over her body at all times. That's to protect all of us.

I support your right to choose, Line

I always considered myself pro-choice but the recent news story about the woman who wanted an abortion so she can be on big brother made me question my opinion. Yes I am pro-choice but I would find it hard to support a friend who wanted a late abortion for vanity reasons.

I have a friend who is very pro-life, she posts extreamly provocative anti-abortion posts on facebook, I have been very close to unfriending her because of her (in my opinion) moronic opinions.

I would say that I stuggle with both people who are very anti-abortion and people who use late abortions for reasons that I would not choose myself. I hope I am a nice enought person not to mention my opinions to friends who were in either camps but it would change my opinion of them.

"Forcing a woman to give birth to a live/dying/dead baby when she did not want to is wrong."

I agree.

I support abortion, but it should be done as soon as possible.

If a woman delayed her abortion, without reason (not doubt etc), then I wouldn't understand enough to be friends.

If I struggled with a friends choice to have a late abortion, then I may choose not to be friends with her.

That would be better than showing that I disagreed, I wouldn't add to anyone's pain.

I don't want the present laws changed.

I do have the right to choose my friends.

I commented on the Josie Cunningham thread, I wouldn't judge her, or anyone else, but I wouldn't be friends with them, iyswim.

OP, your friends opinion might be on late unnecessarily so, abortions, not all abortions.

I would discuss it with her.

Someone on the other thread mentioned people they know as well. I guess you don't have to believe it if you don't want it. Personally, I don't think that people genuinely think it is ok to abort to term for whatever reason (and I'd rather not believe it) but some people on these threads will insist that they do. It's quite disturbing really.

Well thank god stupid Daily Mail articles don't inform parliamentary legislation.

Oooh, I've disturbed bumbley

I support women's right to determine what happens in their bodies and their lives. End of.

"There aren't any women who use abortions as birth control"

Yes there are, my relative was one, we had to threaten with cutting contact, so she got a coil fitted. This is in her interests, she isn't well during pregnancy.

I spoke to another woman who had, had six, she left the last ones as late as possible, so she wouldn't have to worry about getting pregnant/using BC, she has had children removed.

I have met many.

Being female and having fertility doesn't make you a decent person.

My relative has MH/ED, she is staying on track, at the moment.

And on threads like this someone always mentions a friend of a friend who used abortion as contraception or the page 3 wannabe who aborts late because she wants to go in bb.

We really do need to be a tad more sensible.

Whatever the reason or whether the woman doesn't give a dam or is tearing her heart out should not have any bearing in her rights to choose what to do with her own body at any time of her adult life.

I'm pro choice. I have friends who have had abortions, even late term ones, or multiple ones. Doesn't make a jot of difference in how I see them or our friendship. It is not my business how they control their reproduction and tbh, I would drop a friend who was judgey like that. Life is too short, IMO.