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To ask those of you who are pro life?

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Anonynony · 21/04/2014 14:49

How do you feel about friends who have had abortions? Can you maintain friendships with people who have had an abortion and no regrets?

One of my friends has stunned me, talking about another friend of ours who had considered an abortion and my friend said I'm so glad she didn't because I wouldn't have been able to stay friends with her
I'm really surprised, I'm extremely pro choice and vocal about it but this doesn't bother my friend.
But what my friend doesn't know is that I also had an abortion and although I have no regrets I feel a bit strange around my friend now?

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thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:20

bumbly so one mythical woman aborting at 8 months should stop anyone.

As in the one mythical woman who aborted at 6 weeks and and regrets it should stop thousands of other women making that choice.

The one makes it wrong.

So all alcohol should be banned as some people get cirrhosis of the liver.

Your argument is ridiculous.

Answer baby by the way.. yes or no.

ikeaismylocal · 23/04/2014 11:20

I would not agree with induction prior to the age of viability where the aim is clearly to terminate the foetus' life.

What about when a fetus is never going to be viable? Are you saying an induction at 39 weeks is wrong in thecase of a baby who will die at birth?

bumbleymummy · 23/04/2014 11:21

ikea, yes, there really should be a 'somewhere in the middle' term. Pro-abortion technically means supporting the idea of legal abortion. I don't know why people object to it.

gordy, yes, "the adoption process could definitely be improved." means "lets get rid of all adoption laws and let anyone take a spare baby"

I was responding to differentname's post where she gave an example of a couple who were not allowed to adopt because the husband had had a vasectomy in his previous relationship. That's not exactly SS refusing because it's in the best interest of potential children is it?

MaidOfStars · 23/04/2014 11:22

I would not agree with induction prior to the age of viability where the aim is clearly to terminate the foetus' life

Would you have sanctioned an abortion in Baby's circumstances at 12 weeks? The answers are "yes" or "no".

bumbleymummy · 23/04/2014 11:25

the body, she's not mythical. Some women do seek late term abortions for non-medical reasons. This has already been discussed on the thread.

I've answered baby.

"What about when a fetus is never going to be viable? Are you saying an induction at 39 weeks is wrong in thecase of a baby who will die at birth?"

ikea, no, I've addressed that in my previous post to baby.

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:25

yes or no baby

MaidOfStars · 23/04/2014 11:26

I've answered baby

No, no, you really haven't. At least not in a way that is clear, doesn't rely on assumptions or euphemisms, or, you know, demonstrates that you have the courage of your convictions.

I would not agree with induction prior to the age of viability where the aim is clearly to terminate the foetus' life

Would you have sanctioned an abortion in Baby's circumstances at 12 weeks? The answers are "yes" or "no".

Dawndonnaagain · 23/04/2014 11:27

Bumbley
Would you have sanctioned an abortion in Baby's case at 12 weeks.
Yes or No?

bumbleymummy · 23/04/2014 11:27

Maid, I have given you my answer. I believe you have the basic english comprehension skills to work it out.

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:27

bumbly so you think because one/two women opt for late terminations or a few regret early terminations we should stop access for every woman.

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:28

12 weeks baby yes of no

gordyslovesheep · 23/04/2014 11:28

oh Bumbly you do yourself a disservice - please quote yourself wholly

Clearly there are couples who want babies and could offer them a good life and they are being turned down/put off was the the rest of that cut and paste

so if they are Being turned down you obviously think that's wrong and ss are therefore also wrong

bumbleymummy · 23/04/2014 11:28

Sorry ladies, I am not going to be bullied (yes, look at what it is you are doing right now) into answering a question in a way you think is acceptable. I have given you my answer.

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:29

Sorry you know addressing baby's situation to bumbly

MaidOfStars · 23/04/2014 11:29

Maid, I have given you my answer. I believe you have the basic english comprehension skills to work it out

I'm afraid that when discussing the finer points of serious ethical issues, clarity is key.

I would not agree with induction prior to the age of viability where the aim is clearly to terminate the foetus' life

Would you have sanctioned an abortion in Baby's circumstances at 12 weeks? The answers are "yes" or "no".

Dawndonnaagain · 23/04/2014 11:29

I find it unlikely that she will answer Maid. She'll accuse you of bullying in a minute. She needs to have that attached to somebody, that way she can play the victim and remain obfuscatory. It's important to the way she perceives herself on here, as being victimised by both Mumsnet and mumsnetters. It casts her in the role of martyr to the cause and the rest of us as beneath contempt.

gordyslovesheep · 23/04/2014 11:30

also YES OR NO?

Dawndonnaagain · 23/04/2014 11:30

lol, crosspost and a half!

TheBabyFacedAssassin · 23/04/2014 11:31

Bumbley can't answer...what a surprise!!

It's hard to be so sure of your convictions when faced with a real life question...funny, last thread went this way too!

And no one can be too explicit when it comes to my situation. I happy to discuss it openly. People need to understand what is actually happening on their doorstep. Makes the questions that little bit harder.

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:31

Not bullying to have to face reality and actual facts bumbly

It's hard yes but not bullying. You should answer the question as you think you are right and why shouldn't you?

Go on be honest and answer yes or no.

gordyslovesheep · 23/04/2014 11:31

back to bullying - of course it's not bullying to deny women basic reproductive rights ...

if it's bullying to stand up for women in difficulty then I am happy to be called a bully - especially by a coward :)

TheBabyFacedAssassin · 23/04/2014 11:32

Haha dawn!

MaidOfStars · 23/04/2014 11:32

Sorry ladies, I am not going to be bullied (yes, look at what it is you are doing right now) into answering a question in a way you think is acceptable. I have given you my answer

No, no, you haven't. You have failed to give an answer to a very direct question with only two possible answers. I am afraid that I suspect your reluctance to do so is not so flattering for your character.

It's a straightforward question. It has two possible answers. An answer that contains terms such as "induction" and "viability" when n/either term has differential interpretations is not an answer.

I would not agree with induction prior to the age of viability where the aim is clearly to terminate the foetus' life

Would you have sanctioned an abortion in Baby's circumstances at 12 weeks? The answers are "yes" or "no".

gordyslovesheep · 23/04/2014 11:35

thebodydoestricks · 23/04/2014 11:35

Look bumbly you have opinions and that's your prerogative.

We have a right to challenge them.

You should answer the basic question.

in baby's case would you have sanctioned a termination knowing all her circumstances, yes or no

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