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josie cunningham.

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CunningAtBothEnds · 20/04/2014 12:56

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

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Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:29

What basgetti she has a flat chest like many other women!

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:29

YoureBeingASillyBilly That's not what I said. I think if you had waited till a late stage and they saw the bump and pictures of the sonogram and an interview saying you aborted the baby to go on TV then they could be upset and confused. That is not the same as taking the morning after pill or having an abortion for other reasons. The publicity around this could be distressing to her children, that's all I'm saying.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 20/04/2014 15:29

She doesn't need to be ashamed of it either. What happens in her uterus has zeroing impact on someone else's fertility.

This is a woman who seems to have serious emotional problems, zero esteem or is being takene advantage of by the tabloids. She seems pretty damn messed up by all accounts. She turned to prostitution and has two other children to provide for. How is an abortion possibly the wrong choice for her?

Dawndonnaagain · 20/04/2014 15:30

But she probably doesn't comprehend the choice, she probably doesn't perceive things in the way that others do. The fact is, that like a lot of other women, she is entitled to an abortion without judgement.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:30

I agree Topaz just because someone else reacts one way does not mean every one in that situation will feel the same. She is a piss poor role model to her children.

differentnameforthis · 20/04/2014 15:31

It is not the fact that she is having an abortion that makes her a cunt, it is her disgusting attitude in general. I'm sitting here with a sleeping baby on my lap ...

And I am sitting here with a cleft lip & that didn't make me want to call the woman who aborted her baby for having the same, a cunt or vile. It didn't make me want to wish she was kicked & beaten up.

Get over your self.

She is terminating HER pregnancy, not asking you to kill your baby!!!

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 15:32

"The publicity around this could be distressing to her children, that's all I'm saying."

That's just guesswork though. They may be completely oblivious to the publicity (how old are they?) also, they will more than likely be around people who share her opinion on it and that opinion will be adopted by them, at least as children, as the norm.

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2014 15:32

How is an abortion possibly the wrong choice for her

I'm not entirely convinced it's the right choice either.

Purely gleaned from the article, she was excited and buying baby clothes till she started getting cold shouldered by the production company. She's then made the decision based on a possible chance to still appear

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2014 15:33

Posted too soon! Sorry!

But the TV offer is only a possibility not a definite.

So for four m

Beckamaw · 20/04/2014 15:33

This story sounds like a massive pile of bollocks, TBH.
She's either deranged, or it's considerably exaggerated. She was going to pay back the NHS boob job money, but instead spent 1K on baby clothes, while arranging to terminate the pregnancy? Blush

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:33

Now it's online it will be around forever, so they will see it when they're older and search their mum's name.

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 15:35

I never condoned violence, fyi.

gordyslovesheep · 20/04/2014 15:35

Aeroflotgirl she wasn't 'flat chested' she has a congenital condition that means she has NO BREAST TISSUE - not small/flat breasts NO BREASTS

she was given a breast operation for MEDICAL reasons

had she not been the money would not have been given to sick children Hmm

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 20/04/2014 15:36

Cornetto

I think it would be fair to suggest she talks to a counsellor before making a final decision, given the change of heart, but again (and I'm not saying you were saying this), if another woman changed her mind about a pregnancy because, say, the family were suddenly being posted overseas or because she was at risk of redundancy or a job came up that she wanted to do, I think there would be far less censure.

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2014 15:36

Damnit!

For four months this baby was apparently very much wanted and now it isn't.

I can't help but think that this isn't a decision she's actually thought through, and think that 'termination for any reason' would be failing her really badly. Questions should be asked so she doesn't add this to her list of things she wished she'd never done.

There's nothing to suggest her existing children aren't been bought up well and with family support, and till recently was the plan for this one.

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:36

No one would have judged her for having a medical boob job if she hadn't then run to the newspapers and boasted about how she only did it so she could be a glamour model.

basgetti · 20/04/2014 15:37

Other famous people have also documented their terminations and I've never seen the vitriol shown here. Or people worried about how their existing children might feel about it.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 20/04/2014 15:37

Yy - Caitlin Moran, for one.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:38

Exactly topaz, tge way she has conducted herself has been awful. The fact she has courted publicity, time and time again, boasts about herself.

tracypenisbeaker · 20/04/2014 15:38

And I never said she wanted me to kill my baby. I just can't stand the blase way she spoke about getting rid of her child/ foetus/ whatever your view is. She has no respect for her unborn child.

Topaz25 · 20/04/2014 15:38

Other famous people have also documented their terminations and I've never seen the vitriol shown here. Or people worried about how their existing children might feel about it.

I haven't seen that. Particularly at such a late stage. But I might have missed it. I do worry about the effect that putting all this private stuff in the public eye has on their children.

Cornettoninja · 20/04/2014 15:40

I agree Doctrine, I am questioning what my reaction would be in less sensational circumstances.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:40

No it's her perogative to have a termination, but tge way she has conducted herself. I don't think she has thought it through or is doing it for the right reasons. I do agree with one thing, she needs counselling ASAP.

YoureBeingASillyBilly · 20/04/2014 15:41

"Now it's online it will be around forever, so they will see it when they're older and search their mum's name."

And? They're being raised by her- they'll more than likely share her viewpoint on it.

This is a crap example i know but i didnt get my dcs anything for easter this year, my mum has told me they'll be gutted. I was a bit worried but explained my reasoning to them, i.e; your dad, grandparents, great grandparents and aunties will all get you eggs, i'll take us all out on a trip somewhere nice instead. They understood completely and agreed that was sensible. This woman will, if necessary, explain her reasoning to her dcs and they'll more than likely get it as they have been raised by her and share her views.

Aeroflotgirl · 20/04/2014 15:41

Exactly Tracy, it's like she is getting rid of some old clothes not her unborn child, yes have an abortion, but have some respect fir yourself and the child you are terminating!

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