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josie cunningham.

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CunningAtBothEnds · 20/04/2014 12:56

I have read an article on the above where she states despite being 18 weeks pregnant and pleased up until now she will be having an abortion to "further her career" namely to qppear on big brother.

whether this is morally ok is one thing but AIBU to ask if an abortion for the reasons she gives is legal? i suppose its similar to someone saying its not the right time, just more brazen?

(I consider myself pro choice btw I just find her apparent callousness a bit tough to take)

OP posts:
mercibucket · 21/04/2014 11:06

abortion is sometimes used as contraception

winkywinkola · 21/04/2014 11:10

"Abortion is never used as contraception. Likening abortion and contraception is just more women-hating rubbish"

I am pro choice but I think an abortion is a big deal.

Abortion cannot be used as a contraception. Pedantic as it may sound, conception has already occurred.

I have two friends who have had 2 and 3 abortions and are very casual about it and about using contraception in general.

So there are people out there who don't consider it to be that big a deal at all.

Is that woman hating rubbish? I don't think so.

This Josie Cunningham sounds like a daft mare but if she wants to terminate her pregnancy to go on Big Brother (great ambition there), then that's up to her.

ICanSeeTheSun · 21/04/2014 11:12

I very sad because the public hate her, she will be voted off pretty quick.

Shockers · 21/04/2014 11:22

She will be famous, but I can imagine the vitriol. It's like watching a car crash, she needs good people around her.

UnderthePalms · 21/04/2014 11:26

It says in the Metro that she is not going to be allowed on BB
I wonder if she will still abort

Shockers · 21/04/2014 11:27

A friend of my exSIL had 5 abortions during the 80s. She was just a lazy git who slept around without taking precautions. She came with SIL to visit me in hospital after I'd had DS1. I've no idea why as we weren't friends... I asked SIL to take her away.

Fakebook · 21/04/2014 11:42

I'm pro choice, I don't care if people have abortions but posing with your bump for newspapers and exclaiming that an abortion will further your career as you'll get to go on BB is just the lowest of the low attention seeking. Shame on the newspapers for publishing this sad and sorry story.

I sometimes wonder wtf is happening to the world, it seems everyone will do absolutely anything for fame. Sad

lollilou · 21/04/2014 11:56

I have a feeling that with all the vitriol being thrown her way that she will change her mind and keep the baby milking it with numerous interviews and tasteless naked mother and bump/baby photo shoots.
At least that is what I hope will happen.

FrigginRexManningDay · 21/04/2014 12:01

She seems like a very troubled young woman. Bullied because of a medical condition, NHS corrects that medical condition and she is bullied because of it being corrected. Her looks, body, breasts picked apart on social media. Pregnant after having multiple miscarriages with a baby she doesn't know who fathered it because she is a sex worker. Already a mother of two (wheres the father of those two children, why isn't he/they being pulled apart by joe public).

Even the strongest of people would not go through that and come out unscathed. I see a messed up, vulnerable woman with zero self esteem that the media have exploited.

ddubsgirl77 · 21/04/2014 12:03

ch5 have said she wont be on the show no matter what she does and was only a slim chance of being on it in the first place before they found out she was pregnant.

Edenviolet · 21/04/2014 14:45

Very sad story.

Itsfab · 21/04/2014 14:50

She won't be having the abortion yet. She is getting her teeth done for free first though has moaned she will only get silver fillings "though she supposes beggars can't be choosers."

And OP, you are so wrong. Women having terminations because the time is wrong as they have no partner, home, money to support the child is nothing like what this woman is saying she is going to do. If Channel 5 have her on BB I would fear for their sanity tbh.

Itsfab · 21/04/2014 14:59

Some of the comments remind me of the soon to be ex wife of a rugby player who has discovered she is now pregnant and is dropping hints about having a termination. She did this at the same time as announcing her pregnancy. It appears her announcement was all about getting her 15 minutes of fame as no one needed to know if she is planning an abortion.

5madthings · 21/04/2014 15:09

I'll save my anger for the people who think the public destruction of a vulnerable young woman is a glorious opportunity for profit.

The newspapers and media companies who hold up a pregnant, damaged, sex worker with two young children and likely mental health issues and encourage her to be ripped apart for fun and financial gain.

Those people I can get angry about.

Her I can only feel pity for.

^ this that catgirl? Said and others such as solid.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 21/04/2014 15:13

As a citizen, she is entitled to free dental work whilst pregnant.

As a citizen, she is allowed to whinge about the NHS Grin

sashh · 21/04/2014 15:44

Why are so many people saying she has mental health issues?

She has decided to have an abortion so she must be mentally ill? That's really offensive.

I will be honest, I had never heard of her before this weekend.

Women have abortions for all sorts of reasons, most don't publicise them, and some may seem to have more 'deserving' reasons to you and me, but they do not make you mentally ill.

2468Motorway · 21/04/2014 15:47

I'm ok with whatever her reasons to terminate. Not that she should care what I think. No woman should be forced to have a baby.

I think the tabloid stuff is depressing and sad but I separate this from her desire to terminate. It is sad the world isn't fairer and all people who want children aren't able and that kids are in care but these are not within her power to change. These issues are all separate.

Cornettoninja · 21/04/2014 15:50

I think it's more her back story than this one specifically sash.

Going to the papers about her nhs breast implants, dabbling in prostitution, her whole approach to publicising herself as a glamour model - this is just another massively controversial story she's happily promoting in her quest for fame.

Granted she may have no mental health issues at all, but to the casual observer it's not a huge leap to think there's some self esteem / self awareness issues there. If there's not I think a few people would struggle to understand her motives.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/04/2014 15:53

In some circles of society you end up having to get information about yourself 'out there' because if you don't some manipulative git will be more than happy to either hold the threat over your head or spill the beans themselves for about £100.

mummywithsmiles25 · 21/04/2014 16:24

This whole thing is way to close to my heart !

1.under certain amount of weeks i am pro choice ,i think it should be lowered to 12 weeks...unless medical , trauma reasons.

  1. The reason for abortion makes me sick she should have decided sooner that she wanted a glam lifestyle not a baby before 19 weeks.

i was offered a termination at 33 weeks pregnant ! ...i considered for health reasons ..they said she wouldn't survive but i ended up giving my baby the chance , my life has changed forever but i would never have been able to go through with fact i ended my daughters life, not my life to give up on.

differentnameforthis · 22/04/2014 06:39

She has decided to have an abortion so she must be mentally ill? That's really offensive. I agree, however we haven't said that at all.

Looking at the whole picture, the fact that she is SO convinced that she will achieve fame without this pregnancy continuing. The fact that she had other surgery, the fact that she then reversed that surgery, the fact that she has no idea who the father is, the fact that she she sells herself...

All of that, is the reason people are speculating as to the fact that she could have MH issues.

winkywinkola · 22/04/2014 22:13

Exactly.

AmberLeaf · 22/04/2014 23:39

I don't quite get why people are taking a story in the daily mail as gospel anyway?

The amount of vitriol I have read online the last few days about this women is sickening.

She is no doubt vulnerable in some way and has been manipulated horrifically by the press.

TheRealMaryMillington · 22/04/2014 23:44

That link summed up just about everything that is wrong in the world. How totally depressing.

thornrose · 23/04/2014 12:54

She's been set up as the poster child for everything that is wrong with society (according to some) and the media saw her coming a fucking mile away, shame on them

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