27 year old Grandmother

[bongobaby]

Her 12 year old daughter has given birth last Sundayand the dad is 13. She fell pregnant in year 6 of primary school. They are totally in love and into each other and want to get married.
Why an earth would you want to be a grandmother at 27 with a daughter of 12 now a mother.

Yes that era sounds about right for you. Unfortunately you arent there. You are in 21st century britain and sex is no longer shameful. Hurrah! Go get your kicks, no hail marys necessary

I have linked my earlier post to this in regards to cervical cancer. This is kept very quiet because we wouldn't want to discourage anyone from holding back in our free, anything goes and over sexualised society

www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-help/type/cervical-cancer/about/cervical-cancer-risks-and-causes

It's the UK but looks like rates are back to the 50s so you should be happy...(Nb - 13-19 year olds)

"Births to teenagers increased during the 1960s and peaked in 1971 at 50.6 per thousand of the population. Since 1971 they have gradually fallen to their lowest level since the mid Fifties. The proportion occurring outside marriage has increased from around one in six in the 1950s to nine in every ten in 2006. Teenage abortion rates are currently at their highest rate since legalisation in 1968. Although the number of conceptions are falling the proportion ending in abortion has increased over the last ten years."

Which is why there is a cervical cancer vaccine available to teenagers.

I do take your point silly but I think it is wrong. Ideally I think sex should be in a long term relationship or marriage and people shouldn't be sleeping around. I think late teens is a far more sensible age.

I know everyone is different :)

Sorry, I meant HPV vaccine! From your link, alemci:

You will quite often hear that women who started having sex young or women who have a lot of different sex partners are more likely to get cervical cancer. But really, this is only true because the earlier you start having sex and the more men you have sex with, the more likely you are to pick up an infection with a high risk (cancer causing) human papilloma virus (HPV). And so then you are more at risk of developing cervical cancer.

Hahahahahahahah!

good point doctrine but still worth weighing up.

If we're talking ideals i think everyone (both sexes)should be implanted with a microchip that inhibits fertility until such point as they are ready to be a parent and making the conscious decision to do so. The process of removal should involves lots of counselling and take a year

I guess I prefer sex education and contraception information as ways to reduce teenage pregnancy and ensure if there is to be any teenage sex, it is as respectful as possible, to traditional values (aka shaming the girls in question).

Oh dear, not sure I'd've passed the electronic test at 29

I don't think leaving condoms in a bowl is the best idea. For a start, after working in the sexual health clinic, a lot of under 16's complaint was they didn't fit the condoms and we supplied special sizes. Quite common obviously, a 15 year old hasn't fully developed so unlikely to fit a regular sized condom so I'd be wary of doing that if I had kids tbh!

Which are the correct brands or types for that age?)

yes I agree doctrine. I don't think much to the 50s Ireland approach either.

No test doctrine- just a process that takes enough time for you to be really sure it's the right time.

Fwiw the good ol' shame theory was still flying about ireland in the 90's. best friend was sent to a convent to have her son in 1995. She was 21 and at Uni.

Let's just have good old-fashioned chastity belts and be done with it hmm?

Who says we have some of the highest teen conceproon rates in europe? I work in the field and we struggle to get decent comparators. Teen mother yes, conceptions no. I'd love to see them.

In 2009 there were 1,000 births to 13-15 year olds and 3,800 abortions. The rates were one per thousand and four per thousand respectively.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy_and_sexual_health_in_the_United_Kingdom

Wikipedia again, sorry!

Oh, sorry stealth, that wasn't a reply to you with wiki.

I knew the mechanics aged 9. I also desperately wanted my own baby, and imagined it being like a live doll. I remember promising myself that once I started my periods, I would find a boy, and get a baby.

Luckily, I was a late starter of periods, and I'd grown up a lot! I don't think we can say she got pregnant at 11 because she didn't know what makes babies, or how to prevent it. She may have just been thinking like a child, but with grown up anatomy. Puberty is getting younger in Europe- perhaps we should address the issues behind that?

very sad story today in dailymail.

another young mum, pregnant at 12, revealed 2 years later that she had lied about the father, and it was not a local boy but her own brother

why dont thet do dna tests for the baby of every poor girl who becomes pregnant before the age of consent?

You can't hold the children responsible but in my eyes the parents should be prosecuted for child neglect. How could you not know your 11 year old child was in a room alone with a boy? Obviously clueless.

" the parents should be prosecuted for child neglect. How could you not know your 11 year old child was in a room alone with a boy?"

If you knew your 11 year old was visiting a friend or having a friend over, would you have even thought this might happen? I know my parents wouldn't have.

There's also no comment about where this happened.