Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to want to punish my dd for getting house trashed

435 replies

wotoodoo · 09/04/2014 01:38

Dd is nearly 16, has always been totally responsible. Dh and I had an opportunity to spend night away and we talked it through, as she has gcses she said she just wanted a quiet night with one friend over for a sleepover which we agreed.

We came back to utter destruction. Every carpet wet from her desperate attempts at cleaning up sick and she had washed sheets and floors.

But our drinks had all gone, glass shards outside, lighting fixtures and oven broken, stains on sofas, trashed bedrooms.

I have asked her for the list of who was there and also I got some mob. numbers.

I have texted some of those who I know of and they have given me names of some former 6th formers who caused most of the damage.

I have called the police and now have a ref. number. The police are going to interview 2 main suspects but there will be opportunity to go through it with them when they call round.

My dh and I are absolutely livid with dd. I want to ask what is suitable punishment. All trust has gone, I estimate there is £1000 worth of damage. Dh had got her a ticket to a music festival which he says he is not going to give her now and I said she cannot go to her school prom.

Please help me. I can't keep shouting at her. Some of the damage is irreplaceable. I am so saddened that our trust was misplaced.

She has offered to do the gardening in compensation and says that's what to expect from a teenager.

What punishment is suitable and how do I speak to /treat her in a kind loving way ever again?

She knew this would happen as she is intelligent which makes it worse.

OP posts:
SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 09/04/2014 17:27

EvansOval - the OP said that her dd invited ex-sixth-formers who she knew had caused damage like this at another party - that makes it more serious in my book, than a party that gets out of hand because a guest invites others who cause the damage.

And the OP was ABSOLUTELY right to call the police - criminal damage is an offence - and if, at any point, she wants to make an insurance claim, having a crime number will make it much easier, surely?

To the poster who said, "It's just stuff" - it is very easy to say that when it isn't your stuff, your sentimental or irreplaceable items that have been destroyed, when it isn't your home that has been violated.

Wotoodoo - can I suggest that you reverse the order of cleaning and revision? Her school work is vital, and she needs to do her revision - the last thing you want is for any punishment you impose now to impact on her educational future. So revision comes first, and then cleaning before relaxation and leisure activities.

I agree with all those who have said definitely sell the gig ticket, let her go to the prom - but very scaled down - no salon treatments, no expensive dress, no limo, no after-parties. Reluctantly I would say let her go on the holiday - because she will be working hard, and because the family are relying on her for childcare, and perhaps it isn't fair to let them down.

BoneyBackJefferson · 09/04/2014 17:28

Evans

You put sanctions in place, without those sanctions it may have turned out very differently.

I know 40 year olds that are still being bailed out by their parents as they can still do no wrong.

Gentleness · 09/04/2014 17:57

OP - it sounds like a lot of unexpected good might come out this. So lovely to hear how you are talking with your daughter and other teenagers are apologising and returning things. Fifteen is pretty young and who knows if this may be a turning point for some.

I hope the police get somewhere with these destructive men and the others pay heed and realise there are better examples to follow.

Gentleness · 09/04/2014 17:58

(For new readers there is an update at about 1.15pm).

keepcalm111 · 09/04/2014 18:27

Your DD is 15, she didn't know this would happen.she didn't cause the damage.Have you thought how frightened she must have felt whilst all this was going on? She is mortified, has done her best to help with the clean up.You can sell her festival ticket as a token gesture and then you need to draw a line under it and move on.She is a lovely responsible girl who made one error of judgment, all she will learn from harsh punishments and attitudes is anger and resentment towards you.
Sadly I don't think you will get a penny from the insurance company.A 15 yo girl in our village pulled a similar stunt causing an eye watering £72,000 of damageto their swish home and car, but because the guests were invited into the home, the insurance company wouldn't pay out.

diddl · 09/04/2014 18:30

"Your DD is 15, she didn't know this would happen"

She invited kids who had previously trashed houses, after saying that she would have one friend to stay over.

She might not have known, but she could have taken an educated guess!

YouTheCat · 09/04/2014 18:35

A lovely, responsible girl wouldn't have lied and had a massive party to start with. Hmm

floppyfanjo · 09/04/2014 18:39

OP are you my mother retrospectively posting about an incident that happened 31 years ago ?

If by any chance you are my mum I'd like to again say sorry for having that party after you trusted my DBro to "look after" his 15 year old sister for one night (i got home a day earlier than my parents from a school trip abroad)

Anyway I'm terribly sorry that after a (restful) week away from each other you pulled up on the drive to be greeted by fag ends on your block paving,a empty cider can in your prized rose bush and an empty Liebfraumilch bottle nestling in the privet hedge.

It took you a whole 15mins for you to notice the beer stain on the hall ceiling but you did notice that the coffee table collapsed when you plonked your hand bag on it !

It took a further 10 mins to realise that the furniture had been ever so slightly rearranged but not quite so long to realize it had been moved to conceal some dubious stains on the carpet.

Oh I almost forgot the washing line - I'm sorry mum but simon watson from 5R thought it would be a good idea to see if he could swing on it (after half a pint of lager and lime) only it sort of didn't survive the incident........

OP if you aint my mum I'll tell you what she did.

She wrote a list listing all the damage and an approximate cost of repair / Replacement and ticked off the amount as I earned the payback doing extra jobs or from pocket money - It took bloody months before I'd paid for the damage but I think she realised I'd learned my lesson long before the final bill was settled...........

PS I turned out ok - but I'd never ever leave my DC's home alone before the age of 35 ish

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 09/04/2014 18:39

Keepcalm - I mentioned claiming on insurance, but having read your post, I think I was wrong, and you are probably right - and the OP is unlikely to be able to claim anything. I've made a mental,note to think before posting! Blush

floppyfanjo · 09/04/2014 18:40

whoops I forgot about the lamp shade in the dining room and the curtain rail in the study...................................

Pimpf · 09/04/2014 18:46

Stuff of nightmares. Hope you're able to get through it

floppyfanjo · 09/04/2014 18:57

She is a lovely responsible girl who made one error of judgment, all she will learn from harsh punishments and attitudes is anger and resentment towards you.

Hmm

Sorry but youngsters need to learn that sometimes their are consequences to their actions - TBH if she feels "anger and resentment" in being punished for her irresponsibility then OP will have more to worry about than the damage..........................

keepcalm111 · 09/04/2014 18:59

She might not have known, but she could have taken an educated guess!

yes but you could have said the same thing about the OP leaving a teen at home unsupervised overnight.I could have guessed what would
happen!

keepcalm111 · 09/04/2014 19:03

Don't you think having her parents' home trashed and her parents loss of trust is a consequence?

LittleBearPad · 09/04/2014 19:07

Yes, but there are actual financial consequences too. The tangible consequences have to be understood as well as the intangible ones ie losing her parents trust.

Well done OP.

One question though, will the other family want her looking after their children now? It's worth asking them.

MiaowTheCat · 09/04/2014 19:13

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

TawdryTatou · 09/04/2014 19:20

God, fuck the prom. Seriously. Since when did this American shit become the be all and end all?

She played fast and loose with your home. She's since taken the piss.

She misses the prom. At least you'll be doing her the favour of making sure her kids won't behave so stupidly, after they hear about how Mum missed the prom after she wrecked grandma's house.

Deathwatchbeetle · 09/04/2014 19:22

I agree with Deakymum and Miaow the cat.

It is the bloody arrogance -"That's what teenagers do".

Show her what a pissed off mum will do.

Like Deaky I cannot understand this bloody American crap thing -keep it over there. When we left school we just had a disco. No limo, no fancy dress (well, not like they buy for proms).

Oh and do as Miaow the cat suggests. I am sure she will love the pencil museum!!!

You will calm down eventually, just not yet!

TawdryTatou · 09/04/2014 19:26

Didn't read the update Blush

Still would rather cancel the prom than the holiday though. The holiday can go on her CV. The prom is just a bad meal in a rubbish hotel. Meh .

wotoodoo · 09/04/2014 19:34

I have an important update. Your wisdom would be appreciated because I don't know if this is worse. In fact it is. By a long shot.

Have found out that dd has told her friends to say nothing. Getting the parents contact details have stalled as a result.

1 ex 6th former and one ex 6th former's father have contacted me and will pay for damage.

DD and her friends coming to some agreement re: rest of damage.

DD had unprotected sex in our bed. He came inside twice and she has taken a minipill. He asked her for a condom, she was too scared to.

This is what I have gathered after reading through her messages on her supposedly lost ipod.

She has emptied the dishwasher and gone back up to study. I am now in a new dilemma. What the hell will I say or do.

Thank god I name changed for this because I was a smug mum of a 'responsible' 15 yr old before this.

I know she will read this thread at some point so will have to log out between posting from now on.

OP posts:
rabbitlady · 09/04/2014 19:37

good grief. earlier, i thought you'd reached a truce! not so, apparently.
is this all for real? it gets worse and worse.

Logg1e · 09/04/2014 19:40

Oh OP this is horrible.

What does your husband think? Have you told him about the unprotected sex?

PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 09/04/2014 19:40

This only happened recently didn't it? Morning after pill. In depth chat about how if you are too scared to get a condom you are not ready to be having sex.

LittleBearPad · 09/04/2014 19:43

Sorry you mean the morning after pill don't you? It is worse, I'm sorry. Particularly that she has asked her friends not to tell their parents and provide contact details. Insist on getting these.

Why on earth would she have been scared to use a condom? Tell her she'll need a std check as a result and get her one. She could have caught chlamydia etc.

Definitely give the other family the chance to find someone else to babysit their children on the holiday.

I'm sorry.

RhondaJean · 09/04/2014 19:43

Please please don't do what my friend did when she found out something similar, which was go ballistic, read the riot act and tell everyone in our friendship group - utterly humiliating for her dd.

I think you need to talk to her though. Why was she too scared to use a condom? Are they your condoms and she thought you would miss one?

That's a worry, being less scared of pregnancy and disease than being know to have had sex.

I'd also want to know how drunk she was and whether she felt comfortable with her decision ( I'm not suggesting anything force able happened btw, jsut that you need to talk about how she makes decisons)

And I would be FURIOUS it was in my bed. I'd probably add a new mattress to her bill Grin but that WBu of me.

How do you know it was your bed btw?