to vote UKIP?

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Over time I have warmed to UKIP. I see the other parties as self serving bullshitters. Recently I looked at schools for dd, every local school is bursting at the seams, bulge years etc and it's likely I won't get a school of choice. I've been told be teachers and other parents that a high percentage of the children at said schools do not speak English, so rather than teaching maths, the teachers spend more time just trying to teach English to non English speakers.

I live in an average area, I've been told be friends in other areas that it's the same there. There's not enough housing, schools and NHS resources to cope with the levels of immigration. So which stupid power hungry politicians decided it was a good idea to allow all this immigration when there wasn't the infrastructure to cope with it or the funds to pay for more schools etc?

I'm not from a 'British' family myself and have plenty of non British friends, it's not about racism, it's common sense, you can't have an uncontrolled surge in population and expect public services to cope unless you're happy to pay for it. Though I'm sure the govt arehappy that this has caused wages to be driven down...

Aibu?

Well go ahead, as is your right, but many people will think you're an utter knob.

I suspect YouTheCat, that many more people will be voting UKIP in silent protest, than will be wiling to admit to it in public.

(Posted to soon)

Attacking those that do, will not dissuade them. Quite the opposite.

^too soon.

We did it again Tiggy. Great minds

Seriously though, insulting intending UKIP voters helps nothing.

Trying to educate them doesn't work either.

Excellent post Tiggy

I am sure there are some racists that vote for this party due to immigration but I do not think that not wanting high levels of immigration directly means the person is racist.

I think a lot of what is said seems to be to with benefits. I think the same would be said if there was a huge influx of Candians using services that they had not paid into.
I do agree with Tiggy shouting that they are stupid will not result in people not voting for them.

Trying to educate them doesn't work either.

Listening to them might.

UKIP are climate change deniers. Unless there's gays around
www.theguardian.com/environment/blog/2013/mar/04/ukip-energy-climate-policies

It makes me laugh your considered racist because you want restrictions on immigration like other countries outside the eu have.

If you want to vote for a party who would abolish maternity leave, equal pay, and threatens disabled people with 'euthanasia' (I hope they would never bring in such a thing but they have members who openly state this belief) just because you are worried about school resources, I think you have some pretty serious problems with basic reasoning.

If you're worried about your area then moving would be less of an extreme solution than voting for crazed bigots.

Nigel Farage needs barricading in a few more pubs so he can realise that most people don't actually like him or his 'policies'.

As for the OP's concerns about education: children who have English as an additional language do no worse at school than other children. They do not consume all of the teachers time because they have teaching assistants and occasionally interpreters to assist those children until they can speak enough English to manage well in the school environment. Spouting rubbish about immigrant children taking all of the teachers time is just want Nigel Farage wants people to say and believe as his only hope is that enough people will be thick enough to believe such nonsense and he can therefore secure a reasonable number of votes.
Anybody who wants to vote for a party who are prepared to say that homosexuality has caused the floods and other such tripe doesn't deserve to have a vote.
But, alas, we live in a democracy and you are free to vote for whoever you please.

The point is there isn't a huge influx of immigrants - this is bull that has been fed to people as an excuse for the state of this country.

The NHS is not struggling because of immigrants. It is struggling because Cameron is selling bits off to his cronies, taking away funding and imposing ludicrous managers positions when they are not needed, instead of more nurses. Under UKIP, there wouldn't be an NHS.

But, alas, we live in a democracy

I can't believe how many people on here actually believe that all our ills are caused by immigration. That is utter nonsense.

Why the biscuit Fideline?

Only possible response to "But, alas, we live in a democracy" Impatient

Well people who believe that immigrant children are responsible for some state schools being poor and think that Nigel Farage can solve the issue really shouldn't have a vote as they are clearly incapable of separating the rhetoric from the reality. But we live in a democracy so unfortunately even the most dim can vote as long as they are over 18 and not in prison. So I stick by my 'alas' comment.

I don't think it's racist to not want immigration. I do think it's shortsighted and would be an economic disaster though, as well as cruel to the families who would be split up due to such a policy and would lead to a disastrous gap in the labour market. It would also piss off the almost 2million British people currently living in the EU.

There are over 60 million people already living in the UK. All of us are entitled to go and live in London where the streets are paved with gold and there is an integrated transport system. It is not, and it has never been necessary to restrict migration into London from the rest of the UK so why does the EU have to be so different? Not everyone in Bulgaria wants to live in the UK anymore than everyone in, for example, Barnsley wants to live in London.

Well I've read all the comments. I assume that some of you live I'm areas less impacted by immigration or have big houses, children in private school and private healthcare so unaffected by the pressure on public services that immigration has exacerbated.

Thanks for those who've also commented on how this has affected them. I care about my children's education, I take very seriously what I see before my eyes and what teachers affected and other parents locally and not so locally have said about this problem. For those who said the maths teacher was uunprofessional for telling parents she couldn't teach maths because she has to teach English to the non speakers first, teachers have their own minds and opinions too and why should their already hard jobs be made even harder due to this?

So unless I cam afford to move (I can't) my children will have a poor education. Thanks Labour and Con dems, still they can all afford private tutors etc so they don't care.

UKIP believe a woman's place is in the kitchen.

Not a fan of Voltaire then?

Personally I think regretting the universal franchise is even more shocking than any of the offensive guff in the UKIP manifesto.